Saturday, September 12, 2020

veda and vedanta

 

veda and vedanta

Krsn Dutta replies

swamiji dayananda says that the characters in vedas are not history but eternal , so gita here says for those who….Bhogaishwarya prasaktaanaam 44/2 ch , Traigunyavishayaa vedaa 45/2 .

here vedaa means know and not vedah .

i can not but request swaminiji to comment pl as she doesn,t respond me 

Rishi Vasanth Replies to Krsn Dutta

Thank you sir, let’s talk in full

1 veda is knowledge

vedanta is the end of knowing process ie reaching a state of ”all knowing”

once this state is attained, one lives vedanta,

in this state , the single comprehensive folder containing all Vedas, ie all knowledge is owned by such an individual.

Such a rishi, with that ability gained, when he sees the world around, tries to understand the life, in that light and accesses that ‘’total knowledge folder’’ and opens the most relevant files suiting to his purpose, and comes out with the chunks of vedic richas, ie vedic truths, that is how Vedas are created

So Vedanta is the first step

Veda is the result

Where as Vedanta is total knowledge, veda is parts of / patial details of that total knowledge,

Since he knows total, so for him, nothing else need to be known , he finds no use for parts

so for him all vedas become superfluous.

2 ”characters in vedas are not history but eternal”

i agree , they are eternal, universal, non localized, non-specific to a geo-time events, or individuals, hence it’s all not history , but the seers were human beings , they left tiny signatures in the richas they discovered in their tapasya , richas have the identity of who wrote/ who cognized , ie each richa is having that little identity ” rishi devatha, chandas”

veda is the samhita of rishi devatha chandas

ie knower, the process of knowing , and that what is known

3 swaminiji is a great treasure trove in speaking tree, it is a great opportunity to be in conversation with such a vedic pandit,

i have not read scriptures, my writings are from my inner revelations , as a natural result of meditation ..

whenever i stumbled up on a few scriptural expressions, i find that my cognitions are concurring with what other rishis have expressed , for me it’s no surprise, i need nothing more, it’s all guru krupa, it’s a great fortune that i had the opportunity of being initiated into meditation , and i sustained the practice , and i started scribbling abundant insights since decades. but

Krsn Dutta Replies to Rishi Vasanth

But you have filled my heart with pleasure and respect .

Rishi Vasanth Replies to Krsn Dutta

4 but, a student may acquire sufficient knowledge and expertise in a faculty say , engg, thru own effort, or by birth as a genius, or by extrapolations and contemplation, and reach a high level, yet a formal nod from recognized university/ professors in the form of passing an examination and getting declared as graduate in engg will help , but it may not be essential , because he can as well design manufacture like a formal graduate .

so i thought a glance and appraisal by swaminiji will be welcome to know where i stand from the point of view of a vedic pandit .

so i took the opportunity to interact with swaminiji abundantly, i was welcomed, i was appreciated, i was encouraged, but some where things went wrong, i do not know how and why , swaminiji felt some inconvenience, and advised to write independent blogs , not to participate in her blogs as it will cause ”scattering, ”vikshepa”, i have no objection , no reservations , me nothing to lose, and i requested her to come on my blogs and bless me

but, i find that i was blocked .

i am just reconciled to that one advice from elders that ”what ever happens , all happen for good only ”

so nothing to worry , i am hopeful that i and you will be unblocked soon,

since ,on global level these are days when india and pakistan , china, and all saarc are coming together, unblocking each other , and a vasudhaika kutumbakam is seen on the horizon

we must bear in mind that speaking tree is domain of ”wall-less existence, ”, rather breaking away all walls of ego

Breaking away all walls of ego

5 ಎಲ್ಲೋ ಹುಡುಕಿದೆ ಇಲ್ಲದ ದೇವರ / ello hudukide illada devara

ಎಲ್ಲೋ ಹುಡುಕಿದೆ ಇಲ್ಲದ ದೇವರ

ಕಲ್ಲ 65; ಮಣ್ಣುಗಳ ಗುಡಿಯೊಳಗ 70;

ಇಲ್ಲೇ ಇರುವ ಪ್ರೀತಿ ಸ್ನೇಹಗಳ

ಗ 65;ರುತಿಸದಾದ& #3270;ನು ನಿಮ್ಮೊಳಗ 70; ||

ಎಲ್ಲಿದೆ ನಂದನ, ಎಲ್ಲಿದೆ ಬಂಧನ

ಎಲ್ಲ 62; ಇದೆ ಈ ನಮ್ಮೊಳಗೆ

18;ಳಗಿನ ತಿಳಿಯನು ಕಲಕದೆ ಇದ್ದರೆ

ಅಮ 67;ತದ ಸವಿಯಿದೆ ನಾಲಿಗೆಗೆ ||

ಹತ್ತಿರವ 263;ದ್ದೂ ದೂರ ನಿಲ್ಲುವೆ 53;ು

ನಮ್ಮ ಅಹಮ್ಮಿನ ಕೋಟೆಯಲಿ

ಎ 55;್ಟು ಕಷ್ಟವೋ ಹೊಂದಿಕೆಯ 70;ಂಬುದು

ನಾಲ& #3277;ಕುದಿನದ ಈ ಬದುಕಿನಲಿ ||

– ಜಿ. ಎಸ್. ಶಿವರುದ್ರ 42;್ಪ

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