Thursday, September 4, 2014

Self inquiry

Self inquiry

1.1 ''Soul i.e. the man just considers Himself to be the " Karta" though in reality, He is not the Karta''----taking an extreme example of a hang-man, appointed to execute the court's orders to hang a criminal , if he feels that he is just a normal kind man, he feels sad and sinful to kill .but if he feels identity with the system of law and order, dharma, as an element / tool of the system, he will no more feel bad, or hesitation or papa and punya, and does his assigned duty without the doer-ship .so we are to rise to that reality wherein we find ourselves one with the system governing the universe , ie arjun, you are not killing, they are already killed by me, you are only a tool, go ahead'' , in this state we rise to be as krishna himself, me is kishan and kishan is me
"Since this expertise in chethana is lost , man is remaing as ignorant and continues in kali yug, ie suffering"

"1.2 dharma vyadha was a butcher, no remorse , and his message is vyadhagita 1.3 you are the same v n deshmukhji but where as when you as an individual go to shopping as a customer, nothing special, a non entity, like any other man when you work as wg. cdr, you are a supreme powerful man who can command a huge army, and conduct all war operations, and even kill the enemies.when we work in an organisation we acquire the appropriate power and authority ---all to work and see that all work as per the unit's goals set before you you may call this a drama, top management gives promotions designations and dress, and personnel , and commandon a higher perspective we are the employee of the krishnas organisation running the universewe are supposed to know the rules and regulations of the system/organisation to effectively align our activities to achieve the organisational goalsignorance is no excusewe as humans must know the natures laws, richas , and be better better and become part of the governanceand richas, the rules, are ''richo akshare parame vyoman yasmin deva adhivishve ,,,,,,,,''richas are in the parame vyoman , in the ''beyond'' so go beyond the three gunas"

"1.4 ''Gunaas" will keep on doing their appointed work automatically''we need to understand the system, and the full range of system elements, and our place in the system, system elements include subtle and gross officers, juniors, frshers, lower staff, clerical, labor, and the associated tools, furnitures weapons, buildings,vehicles, mechanics tool kits we not to interfere , not to undue pay attention to each and every detail, but ensure that elements of the system work most efficiently and effectively ---all this by our best supervision, and wise and timely decisions , being alert, and above all fully in accordance with the ''system manual'', ie the constitution of the universe, which is again in the field beyond ''parame''and ord says become ''yogastha'', become expert in the natural laws, ie, knowing and living the life and doing the acts in accord with laws of nature"


"1.5 ''a man of knowledge should not disturb these ignorant men.''in the organisation, a few subordinates may do some deviations like ''extracurricular activities, and waste company's resources, the man of knowledge should not get attached and encourage such sinful activities, and at the same time damage the morale of such men, but skillfully bring back the order thru his skill in action ''karma sukaushalam''since smoothe running of the system towards evolution of universe is the ultimate aim"

"1.6'' When a man i.e. man's Soul understands that the "Karta" is none other than only the Gunas of Prakruti, and starts seeing the " AAtmaRoopa" beyomd the " Gunas", that man then reaches Me''in the yogastha state, ie in the nitya samadhi, when the pure awareness stabilized .,, self predominates , activities are seen as separate from the self, the actor fully knowing that he is not the character being played, in this state man is in sakshi bhava, while activities happen with optimum efficiency , yet the man non interferenceit is naishkaryam, doing in the state of non doing it is like a master sitar player, plays naturally spontaneously yet profoundly as if he is hands and body and fingers are just playing automatically, it is due to years of sadhana"


"1.7 ''But can he or for that matter anybody whatsoever, do anything to go beyond the " Gunas"? Because for going beyond the Gunas, some Karma has to be done and " Gunas" are the only ones who do all Karmas. Yes, one can go beyond the Gunas by not taking any interest in the " Kasrmas" at all''guru guidance is a great help here kanta kantese nikalkar, phekdena since we need to go beyond guna, we need to go beyond karmaso guru helps here, i repeatkarma is grossest to sublestbodily activities,activities of limbs and senses------grossso , to go beyond this, sit down, close the eyesnow what remains is mental activities, thinking , thoughts ------subtleto go beyond thoughts, guru gives a process, of reducing the thinking, , ie, to subtle thinking and then to no thinking, so one is now with no karma, gross or subtle and one becomes free from all karma, in this state, samadhiso he has gone beyond once samadhi becomes nitya samadhi, then he starts ''yogastha kuru karmani '' doing in the state of non doing it's so very simple"

"1.8 '' Under the influence of your EGO''as long as one has not become yogastha, and merged inthe universal ego , beyond the gunas, the small ego, ''i am engineer, i am teacher, i am singer '' persists even in satwa tooonce yogastha is experienced small efo vanishes, universal ego predominates,"

1.9  arriving at this level of reality ''seeing me in all, and all in me'' is possible to experience only if one is in unity with his self , ie pure consciousness, which is beyond the naama roopa mahima leela of krishna or any ista, or any book, scripture, veda,,krishna has said ''nisthraigunyo bhavarjuna---------'', ie ''go beyond the duality, and be atmavan, he did not say be krishnavan, so the emphasis is to get rid of the phenominal world and be with united with the truth of existence,"


"2.1 '' This whole universe is created by Rushees and " MANOOS " who were all just mental thoughts of Lord ShriKrushna. That means they had no real existence.''----trueThis whole universe is created by Rushees and " MANOOS " who were all just the impulses , subtle spandanas , the small waves of the infinite ocean of consciousness beyond the field of time- space here , let's not get stuck at labels ''fruity or maaza'' , let's reach the fruit mango directhere , let's not get stuck at labels ''krishna, or rama'' , let's reach the substance, ie consciousness direct,each tradition/system/ cult / religion/saint /guru teaches the same one truth , though in different languages and idioms and mediums coming to the ''That means they had no real existence''yes, any form , or being, rishi or manu are manifest momentary waves of that consciousness for came into existence for a specific need, and they have no real permanent existence they are part of ever changing reality, the essential characteristic of the manifest creationthe unmanifest consciousness only the reality, eternal, never changing without birth death"


"2.2 ''He says that " I know the people, it is not merely by their faces but each and everything about them......''consciousness being the field of total knowledge,omniscient, all knowing gyanamurthi , ''aham vedosmi'', knows all its multi modes of expression , in the past, in the present and in the future like in the past and present , in the future too how events take place is precisely as per law of karma , hence possible to predict every thing to the minutest detail , faces, features, behaviour, all ocean knows its every wave but a pot has limited capacityfor consciousness it is possible, hence ''i know them all''individual having limited capacity, it is not possible, hence ''you know them not ''since the range of karma is unfathomable, any extrapolation/ estimation/ prediction is not going to be precise


"2.3 '' in other words, Sir, we are doing only that which He had programmed us to do''at the ultimate zoom out level, we are doing that which the consciousness, para chethana had programmed us to doif one becomes yogastha, automatically his life will be tuned to the laws of nature, as ifgod is guiding and directing us, if not in yogastha, ,man will commit mistakes coming under the influence of virus, ie the sanskars, and life goes unpredictable, ending in suffering"

"2.4 " Our Life Is Pre-Decided " answer is yes and no i have elaborated in my blog ''robot am i or not ''"

"2.5 my God " Shri Swami Samartha " got this book written by my hand,----no surprise, it is like valmiki writing ramayan, potana writing bhagavatham here individual becomes a ''on line'' with pure consciousness and things happen --innocently , but perfectly"


"3.1 '' though He can predict " only the next birth from the karmas done by the man in this birth, for Him to go by the Karmas which the man will be doing in the next birth will not be possible unless He Himself has totally planned all the Karmas that the man will be doing in the next birth. Do you agree with me''---yes and noyes, nothing in the universe happens without the approval/permission of lord , even an ant cannot bite, since all individual wills are parts of the supreme will , so take a easy , unworried stance on what ever is happening , good or bad, accept coolly and calmly . this gives peace and in the face of difficulties no,each individual will have certain level of choice, which they can exercise and carve the course of their life as they feel fitso , do not be complacent when things are going in wrong ways, you have the ability to alter the destiny, and raise yourself to the supreme ability, to rule your life, to rule the life of every one in the universe


3.2 all spirituality, is meant to rise the present level of existence to the supreme level , by what ever means , by what ever theories, of surrender, or self will , but when a thief is stealing away our hard earned belongings, do not wait in surrender that lord will come and save you , lord has given the ability to take action , and his teaching also ''arjun, klaibyam maa'', fight and establish dharma, so his delegated powers, ie best options must be used when rain does not come crops are drying, do pray for god's mercy. but do some thing, like dams. lift irrigation etc that is how man can do wonders where god has not helped


"4.1 ''not even in a single verse has He said that " I am bestowing on you " FREE WILL " and the required power to put into action that ' Free Will ' to be able to " Yathechhasi Tathaa Kuru " meaning " To Do as you wish to do." Not a single verse even faintly suggests that " You have the ability to alter ' destiny".----------subordinates are given discretionary powers, which the are allowed to / encouraged to exercise for the good of the organisation . it is not ''do as you like'', boss will not interfere every moment , will not dictate what to be done he expects that subordinate does appropriately, the reality of availability of choice itself is a proof that he has hiven some powers , hence not said speciically in gita since choice is there, there is need for lords advice ''to do the right action, with skill, kaushalam if choice is not there, we are robots, so no need of gita since choice is there we are not robots"

"4.2 '' But giving advice is entirely different from bestowing the ability to that duty voluntarily.''lord has bestowed the ability to that duty voluntarily, and with a matching advice/direction, as per dharma, as per swadharma man is the son of lord, parent wants him to come up in life, neither by reckless life, nor by spoon feeding /guiding every step, he says my dear son, be wise, work hard work intelligently hence lord has given viveka"

"4.3 ''nobody has been able to answer by quoting from the Geeta.''obvious things are not stated, for example gita does not contain a law ''sun rises in the east'' gita implies a lot, hence my point has been, ---''gita/ veda to be read from inside, in the light of self realization''and as we go deep into ourselves, we reach the transcendental reality of kishan within us, and will be able to take the direct message from lord if without the inner light, library full of books will not help"

"4.4 ''There is not a single verse which has this meaning. Further, this very thinking arises from our firm conviction that we are the architects of our fate''arjuna was given the vishvaroop, the ultimate zoom out view of life, he was asked to function in that perspective, and it is his birth right, do not remain, a powerless maa klaibyam , you are having the supreme powers in the self as potential . you have to access that source and activate the reservoir of infinite energy intelligence, bliss, sath chith ananda, do not be a miserable small helpless powerless weeping weakling ,"

"4.5 " Mandaam" means " Ignorant and incapable of understanding.---hence the need to become gyani by the grace of lord krishna, and rise to higher understanding i have not read gita much, my talk is based on my insights gained thru meditationover decades, but i can validate the message of gita or scriptures thru my insights gained directly. you are welcome to inquire lord 's message in depth but a few minutes of meditation and experiencing samadhi will clear million doubts instantly"



"5.1 even Lord ShriKrushna's thinking, is also mere thinking only and " Not reality ". So, they cannot be part of " Ever Changing Reality ".----i repeat, pure consciousness, para, unmanifest, infinite, silent ,nirakar nirgun, is the reality that is underlying all manifestations, gross, subtle, 14 lokas, all devi devathas, earth sun stars moons trees men animals mountains rivers all , even 5 koshas, thoughts every thing this para , ie unmanifest , is truth, brahma satyam, ---eternal truth, never changing and apara, ie manifest, is nontruth, jagat mithya ------ephemeral, ever changing so as long as it is manifest, it is subject to change,"


 "5.2 '' We will get released from this cycle only if Lord Shrikrushna has planned such a release and not otherwise''-----whether we are aware or not , every one's/ every thing's evolution and final release is the thing that is in the natures plan, every thing every one is growing evolving , reaching perfection , reaching the original state ''yathaa poorve'' so not that krishna has not planned, it is very much in the total plan"


"5.3 no contradictionsleep dream waking are the three states in which human / beings lead life -------part of mithya turia, ie 4th state is the unchanging reality underlying these states ---------it is the one realityonce we experience this state we will come to know the 3 states are mithya , like dream only"

6.1 i am only sadhaka, i was given a method by my acharyas, it has worked, it has worked wonders in my life
you know
Puja koti samam stotram stotra koti samo japahjapa koti samam dhyaanam dhyanakoti samolayah(krishna arjuna samvade - uttara gita - mahabharat)
In a conversation of krishna and arjun,krishna said - the result thatwe get by performing karodo pujas is equal to performing of 1 stotra,
similarly karod stotras is equal to 1 japa,
karod japas is equal to1 dhyaan
and karodo dhyaan is equal to 1 mano layah.

emphasis is on laya, samadhi under expert master, dhyan leads to samadhi instantly

one may ask his guru on this and get initiated into practice of meditation, i am sure they will guide,

explore experiment discover and adopt a system most suitable and do the practice
i searched for a guru , i tried several systems before settling for practice ,
and i got one of the best i am happy
i will not be suggesting any system,
one has to try and find but one thing is sure ,
the samadhi experience , ie ''going beyond'',
ie direct experience of ''nisthraigunyo bhava'''' that happens in samadhi , is a must what ever is the system
that eliminates the need of any searching, since one gains the ability of knowing and understanding of life / universe/ gods/ philosophies / messages of saints, and holy books of all religions, without having to read them

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