Every one prays as per his ability,

with knowledge, without knowledge,

with devotion, without devotion ,

in belief,or as a imposition, or ritual or just casual 

but the majority do not get the real results, since they lack that required ability 
hence suffering in the world continues

in the same world of suffering, there are a few men who can pray really ,

and are just in bliss, wealth, wisdom, godgiving the boons they ask 

guidance from right master helps to know and do prayer correctly .

 

All prayers are done to get relief , for joy for punya for boons for redemption for grace, for pardon , again each one has his wisdom level to guide him 
that wisdom is not uniform nor high , cannot be compared nor derided nor emulated, 
it is a means/ vehicle , it may be by foot. by cart. by train , by plane 
results will be as per the means adopted 
all welcome as per -----''akaashaath pathitham thoyam .....................

 

Master guides saying, initially, one must persist in the practice with certain set programme at least for one mandala, ie 40 days
and gradually it becomes a part of life 
i mean, there are starters, there are graduates there are post graduates, all are welcome 
finally one attains mastery , in which his every brath becomes a prayer 
but it is after these initial stage is crossed , he will not do it on specified day etc , no need 

but starter it is required
and one should graduate, not getting stuck in the same class life long

 

There are levels of attainments all saints are not at the same level 
depending on one's life situation and determination one may reach any level, subject to right guidance 
my observation is that many lack true guidance , hence remain alpa santoshi

 

Personal experiences are the true signals, 
why prayers are not answered may be due to several causes, all boil down to the system purity
and a stage will come, when no prayer is required, god becomes the dearest friend, no fear nor reverence,but only love prevails, he fulfills unasked, unsprayed

 

Bhakthi is in the initial states
but later, when in the union with god, in the state of samadhi, there is no duality of me and he, no bhakthi bhav, nor any bhav, it is a state of bhavatheeth 
in this you are the all powerful god, 
accessing all the wealth and happiness deep within 
here belief / faith / right attitude will not be there 
it is just a purely god state

 

All virtues blossom once union takes place, god is suguna nidhi 
essential condition is that devotee must be able to go beyond the name and form

 

Every one 's experience is unique and precious, cannot be grasped by others
it is like some goes to college to master a subject
some one learns thru self study self efforts self experiment self exploration
there is no one method, none has patent on the paths

 

We can be our own masters if we first remove negatives from our system.

but we will be able to first remove negatives from our system easily surely quickly with guidance, 
hence god has sent guru parampara to help the seekers 
a few exceptional fortunate ones like you may reach the goal on their own without guidance 
man is born with some intelligence to guide him in every moment , in life 
but a superior intelligence can be advantageously gained from true masters 

 

The single solution is to gain unbroken union with our self, the abode of god within 
and god comes on line answering and helping

 

Experience of the state of samadhi , 
ie the state of least excitation of consciousness, 
ie the state of non doing , beyond even the subtlest thinking level, 
renders one to gain alignment with natural law

in this state when individual acts, things happen best as per will of supreme, individual becoming just the instrument, and no karmabinds, no remnants persist, one remains ''nonstick''

and it is a state of spontaneous actions and responses, just extempore,
without any impositions or controls, or dos and donts, virtues take over the behaviour 
and all karma is accomplished best, without fail, but with no mark left on the doer

 

Such a man in naishkarmyam says that ''He has not done anything, it just happened''

all is happening around Him. This is Naishkarmya Siddhi, getting result without putting any effort.

 

You just be, be natural, and nature does everything for you.

 

Nature anyways is doing the things perfectly,

 

being natural is not interfering or objecting with it.

 

When there is an intention with absolute surrender, the results come easily.

 

and the results of such karma are always life supporting and not binding the doer in any way

 

this is the art of doing in the state of nondoing

 

''attachment or sense of doer-ship'' persists as long as one is not in the union with supreme 
once a permanent stabilized union is attained, there will no more be the doer and hence no doership, nor attachment ..

in the union, it is gyan , one is gyanmurthi, , knowing the art of nondoing, hence kama is rendered into ashes

 

''a man cannot stay a second without doing''
hence one has to meditate and experience the state of nondoing, , it is the state beyond mind /senses, body 
yes karma persists in life till the goal of evolution, mukthi is reached by jeevathma
but man it is possible to accelerate the pace of travel

words are power when backed by the feel of heart

 

surrender is the thing that happens in the yogastha state, nonduality, no individuality 
hence no attachment no negativity, persists

 

''to do satkarma'' we must know what is sathkarma, and we must also have that ability to opt for sathkarma against the 6 strong tendencies ie, kaama krodha lobha moha mada mathsarya 
in short we must pick shreya against the lures of preya

for this we must be experiencing the state of sath, that is the state of yogastha .as you rightly said ''If you know the TruthThen only all the karma baggage gets cancelled.That depends on the individual s effort''

here the emphasis is on the art of karma, ie doing in the state of nondoing
in this state, ''heyam dukham anaagatham'' happens 
ie prevention of wrong doing is eliminated, all actions turn out to be good 
and the effects of doing on the individual are nil or minimal 
Selfless actions, Spirit of Service  will happen as one is in alignment with the supreme , so no flaw happens

yes all actions are result of mind thinking and body acting on the thoughts 
hence in this state of nondoing, negative thoughts are just not born

 

the idea is when one is aligned with purusha who is ruling the universe, then individual 's actions gain the dignity of supreme, 
hence the emphasis on effort to get this alignment

 

Nondoing is a state of samadhi, no efforts , all body actions are just stand still, even breathing slows or becomes still, heart beat slows or stops for a moment 
no mental actions no thoughts no feelings no sensing, it is just awareness, aware of nothingness, 

but as the practice matures, experience of pure awareness persists, stabilizes even while thinking talking and action 

''yogastha kuru karmani ''is that state, actions driven by supreme will prevailing individual will 

i reiterate it is to be experienced directly , cannot come just by knowing about it or reading gita

 

When an individual in union with supreme does any karma, it is automatically becomes a doing of god , all motives are so greatly refined that they tend to become the most desired, producing all positive results

 

apavithra pavihthrova......

the perfect okness, when vision is pure

 

'Sacrifice, charity& penance these activities will happen without attachment or any expectation of result   in the state stabilized nondoing , in which all happen as an act of god

 

we need to get over the  suffering  instant relief ,from bhava saagar, all the ocean of suffering 
this is what happens in the state of samadhi, it is the state of ''i am ok '' 
hence all is ok fo me , 

and this is what god gives to the devotee ''kshana mey doorkare''
he will not remove the suffering
he removes the ignorance that sees the suffering 
hence devotee gets the instant relief 

apavithra pavithrova 
sarvavasthangathopiva 
yasmareth pundareekaashyam 
sabayabhyanthara shuchihi 

the vision makes all the difference

hence 
agnaana thimirandhasya
gyaanaanjana shalakaya

here is the practical hint for getting the instant moksha

Karma has levels gross, physical, less gross with skills, subtle is to get it done thru delegation , thru intellectual attainments 
manager does subtle karma, 

technician does gross karma

sidhi is the subtlest karma, just a wish , and things happen
there is least physical.mental intellectual effort 

in the state of samadhi , one is delegating the task to god

yatheenam braha bhavathi sarathi
god becomes servant

No surprise, i  encounter such situations

this is called nature cooperation, called sidhi experiences, things happen conducive to you unexpected, untrying, unknown coincidences
happen on their own what is required when
but supreme has accurate calculations to programme and deliver 
and india is known for this kind of education, 
but we lost track and got into problems having lost the traditions of teaching such pure knowhow, art of living the life , with divine intelligence 

though you are in plain clothes, and routine mundane duties, this experience is aishwarya, not measured in rupees and gold, bungalows name fame 
, nor needing danda kamandala maalaa paadukas, nor followers, nor needing to trek himalayan heights in search of kailash 
god is with you all the way

  

every one, everything is unique, a caste unto himself unto itself  undeletable ,undeniable .

the one , the only one the pure self ,the athma, is colorless, odorless, , tasteless, caste-less 

be with it , become one with all castes, regardless

  experiences come and go. Cognition/knowledge remains’’

 

...........so it delineates what is valuable and what is not, and takes one out from illusions of spiritual attainments based on ‘’experiences’’, like unusual visions apparitions /images/noises/messages/coincidences, and resultant mixed feelings/emotions leading them to relate with  bhakthi/ista devatha etc , missing  the ‘’Cognition/knowledge’’ they might have/ have not  stumbled up on , hence, resultant glorification of mysticism.

 

‘’That is what I have been telling all along - 'anubhava' is not a 'pramana', it is subjective, differs from person to person, and cannot be passed on.

 

……..…yes, perfectly reasonable, most important to distinguish what to really learn from the great souls, separating the biography[ it may have due place as an inspiration], and person-specific ‘’miracles’’ and only getting at the insights they have gained and expressed, which only can enrich the wisdom  .

 

‘’Knowledge is obtained through Pramana - 'Valid means of knowledge'’’

 

………..yes, for this one himself should be able to gain access to the  field within ie ’’satyam gnyanam anantam 

  acting  art

prior to art art, if the actor first attains the state of ''yogastha'', then his life becomes untouched, and his playing the character in a drama also becomes untouched, he may be in tears rolling, but deep in the core he might be experiencing ''no grief '', and hence could convey the bhava

 

the ability to experience and /express /convey the bhava as real as possible , ie nearest to life, indicates the depth of the artist, / sincerity/ devotion to the art,

 

and so i come to a valid conclusion that ..the artist first much reach his depths , thru intense sadhana and get at the cognition of brahman, which is the source of all arts, kalanidhi, and all aesthetics, saundarya, and truth/ authenticity

 

with this initial preparation the first quarter of the life, he turns out to be a great success in every undertaking, like that of singing/ acting.

 

if we see a not so good performance, the reason is that essential tapasya ,  is lacking, so the resultant mediocrity. and cannot move the audience greatly

  

Every person has tendencies of virtue and vices, shreya and preva battling every moment 

has option to become the best or the worst

circumstances play a great influence in molding the character 

the scars not easy to heal, anger is a volcano , erupts 

every one does the'' dharma samsthaapana '' in his own chosen ways like veerappan or osama obama or Hitler

 

quote

Robin Hood is a heroic outlaw in English folklore, a highly skilled archer and swordsman. 

Although such behavior was not part of his original character, since the beginning of the 19th century he has become known for "robbing from the rich and giving to the poor",


Robin Hood became a popular folk figure in the medieval period, continuing through to modern literature, films and television. 

In the earliest sources, Robin Hood is a yeoman, 

but he was often later portrayed as an aristocrat wrongfully dispossessed of his lands and made into an outlaw by an unscrupulous sheriff

unquote

-----------see the cause of perversion 

he was good 

‘’he was wrongfully dispossessed of his lands and made into an outlaw by an unscrupulous sheriff’’

 

All are god's creations , thorns and flowers

But we do use the thorns and barbed wire fencing,

 
knife can cut vegetables for making a nice meal
it can cut the finger too

but why scriptures describe ravan , bhasmasur and other ?

think more , on the role of rakshasas in sagar manthan 

reality must be faced in totality not to hide it, not ourselves running away from it 

villain is an eye opener on the human behavior , and a good lesson

 Every one's health is god's priority, mine is his best ,when aligned with god, 

he makes me take amrutha ahaara 

[ =uncooked raw veg, fruits , nuts, as meals and snacks, no spices, no non veg. no onion, tamarind chillies salt no alcohol-----ref manthena sathyanarayana raju --google ]--

like life just natural as animals and birds

body in agility, more walk, than ride, less vehicles

me doing all physical works, no servants

gardening, music, dance in divine trance

all in my natural choice, in nonchalance

Every query/inquiry/ explanation/elaboration/clarification/discussion

---all will make the reader stay stuck, flabbergasted 

at the beauty of expression,the magic of theme, charm of presentation 

---all being at mental level, ie at intellectual level, 

tho the best, never can lead you into the ocean of all wisdom , the absolute , 

which can be comprehended unmistakably clearly, truly , directly, in oneself beyond the mind.

going beyond can never occur as long as one is stuck at mental activity of any type , 

ultimately proving it to be the finest exercise in futility.

A true aspirant looks for such a master, and finds one, gets the realization and proceeds further

apply this test --''what exactly is the gain i got from the reading of huge blogs, huge in quantity, from huge number of blogger, including mine.

did i get the experience of absolute?

if yes, proceed

if no proceed further

All said done st must lead the way to experience of enlightenment in the real sense, not compromise with talks delivered /received

this is my concern

we heard''arise awake stop not till the goal is reached'' 

still we sit and spend time in all pursuits except the true , truly worthwhile, as if eternity is at our disposal.it's a mirage , i caution so 

No need of analysis of ignorance 

just switch on the light transcendent

all discussion is superfluous, tho superb