SAMVADA, VADA, JALPA & VITANDA

 SAMVADA, VADA, JALPA & VITANDA

Samvada is the discussion between the teacher and the student. The teacher talks and the student listen.

The student can ask question to clarify doubts. The All our scriptures are written in the form of samvada.

The Bhagawad Geeta, as it says, is a Krisha - Arujana Samvada, a dialogue between the teacher, Krishna

and the student, Arjuna on Brahmavidya.

Vada is the discussion between equals to establish the truth / to resolve the conflict Both parties are

open minded, even though they are convinced that they are right, they are ready to listen and to accept the

opponents' version. Learning takes place at the end of even vada since the truth is established to the

satisfaction of both parties.

Jalpa is the discussion between the two who are also convinced that each one is right and the

opponent is wrong. Unlike in vada, the purpose is not to discover or establish the truth, but only to

convert the other party. The outcome of this whole jalpa is lot of noise. Even if it appears that one

has lost an argument, he will not accept it, instead he goes back to get some more materials or

concocts some other arguments only to establish he is right and other is wrong.

Vitanda is the discussion with the sole purpose of defeating the opponent. The arguments may

lead to establish that the opponent is not qualified to discuss. There is no leaning either or both of

them and also not worth listening.

writer is field

 writer is field ..

his work is particle..

field attracts particle ..

one's offspring is the most loved ..

he reviews

he nurtures,

he improves his output ,

like he brings up his children..,

wants them to shine in the world ,

not be destitutes rolling in the dust

i quote ''When a writer talks about his work, he’s talking about a love affair''.- Alfred Kazin

I Dont run away from problems,

 I Dont run away from problems, 

Problems run away from me

problems do not want to face me

I have no problems

‘’Ha ha ha... just like problems, humor is also part of life, don't run away from it. Now don't tell humor run away from you........ :-)’’

Humour is only one of the 9 ornaments i wear

these nava rasa i can wear and unwear at my choice,

nothing binds me , neither i go after it, nothing sticks

i am nonstick

all are just water drops on lotus leaf

We are not to run away, we are to face, boldly all the challenges

and win over all the problems,

universe is a rich heritage handed over by the supreme to each individual

as a gift out of his generosity

let us own it, master it , rule over it as its supreme lord ,

jagannath, vishvanath---are not just words, nor names,

it is our true designation in the universe

let us shine with all the supreme merit , ''purusha prathibha''

Since
yateenaam brahma bhavathi sarathi

Arjun i said ‘I will come back’

 Arjun i said ‘I will come back’

but i came back, long back

i am here, now , at this moment

you are not able to see me, now ,

just in front of you , here , you missing me, somehow

you think that i will come back only later, not now

i am the time, past ,present, future

i am the yug, all the yugs, even this yug, now

i am the yug purush, in all the yugs,

so also, now , here , in this yug

i am the space, i am the point

i am all the points , in all the space

so, i am before you, behind you

above you , below you,

within you, without you

i am in every particle, article, trickle

can’i you see me, is your mind fickle

how is that you are still waiting, for my arrival ,

as if in some future occasion,

as if at somewhere, far off station

after all vacation , all vexation,

in some special session ,

in one season, with a particular reason

I know who i am–

 I know who i am– 

i like to remain unknown,– 

leaving all to guess and get at who and what i am– 

i like to be ever new, in ever new forms,– 

with new names, 

with new frames–

with new wisdom, creating newness,– 

every time, every moment–

i am a seer, 

but remain unseen– 

i have no identity, no profile,no picture,– 

all is your best conjuncture-

yaa devi sarva bhuteshu…..mathru rupena samsthitha....mother....maatha

 

yaa devi sarva bhuteshu…..mathru rupena samsthitha

 

the principle of maatha”

is one of the many features of devi

 

….in the sloka ”yaa devi sarva bhuteshu…..mathru rupena samsthitha”

.

..devi is a goddess, not one particular mother,

nor a statue in a temple,

 

but it is the principle of mother in all pranis,

 

whether cat dog monkey human, chicken, bird, elephant, lion

..the principle of motherly care , responsibility, love, tender qualities, patience, in conceiving, giving birth

and protecting, feeding,

teaching skills , play , work, protection ,

cleaning, sanitation, etc.

..which are common features of mother in all pranis

 

… when i saw a cat attending to her children,
so lovingly , and commitment, against all odds, involving hard work,
i really was thrilled to see mother ”devi”’ in it

 

……………..that is how devi is eternal ,
all pervading in all beings, sarva bhuteshu,

 

not localized in time or space or to a specie

 

…so similarly all gods are particular eternal, principles,
eternal non changing laws of nature governing the universe

Realised Master expresses and conveys only silence

 Realised Master expresses and conveys only silence,thru all words

 

silence is not dumbness, not to remain speechless

 

but let's explore a bit on what exactly Sri Dakshinamurti did to dispel all the doubts of the disciple ??

 

what exactly is his mouna vyakhya??

 

can any one learn that art and science and technique of mouna vyakhya??

 

and how ??

 

if ''Silence is the most eloquent language'' .------then what is the need of this blogging and dialogging, then we can be just silent no need of any book?

 

then

only white paper can reveal all the wisdom?

 

why audio / lectures, music, why a tongue at all,

and what is the need for a speech ,

then where is the need of ears

 

so deaf , dumb are the most elevated teachers?

because they are experiencing silence life long?"

 

"Still, let's know a little more on what exactly is silence?

 

since it is glorified as

 ''nishabdam paramam padam,

and nishabdam brahma uchyathe"

 

"Finally this answer silences me yes, chathurtham ,

 

turia is the state of silence,

rather the word silence is not a right word,

 

it is the state of least excited state of consciousness

it is ‘’shivam shantam advaitham, chathurtham manyante,,,,.......

 

and guru gives the experience of this thru initiation /instruction,

 

and this silence is what dakshinamurthi imparted to shishyas which cleared all doubts

 

and this

 "Silence vibrating is Creation

Silence flowing is Love

Silence shared is Friendship

Silence seen is Infinity

Silence heard is Adoration

Silence expressed is Beauty

Silence maintained is Strength

Silence omitted is Suffering

Silence allowed is Rest

Silence recorded is Scripture

Silence preserved is Our Tradition

Silence given is Initiating

Silence received is Joy

Silence perceived is Knowledge

Silence stabilized is Fulfillment

Silence alone is."~ Author Unknown ~"

 

"Beautiful, i am hearing the silence conveyed thru this,

 

wonderful, these words on silence are  as profound as silence ,

 

it is clear that silence is not —–not speaking… not being dumb -..

 

,it’s the grace,