Familiarity
One gets some rest/ respite every time singer come back to shayee , the original home, origin,
Familiarity
google” is a modern ”gurukul”…. a ”gokul”…a ”gita”, …….
Which came first Veda or Vedanta?
Ridli Strap Replies to Rishi Vasanth
Yesterday at 11:08 pm
Pranams Rishiji,
Yes, very close to the point.
The question can be asked, “Which came first Veda or Vedanta?” Majority of experts will say Veda came first and Vedanta came at the end because ‘antah’ means end. Some even say, once you know Vedanta, Vedas can be ignored and forgotten.
What the majority do not know is that the Vedic scientists, when they attained the end did not abandon the beginning. They realized that the end can only be achieved by starting at the beginning; hence they revisited the Vedas which incidentally were shruti or ‘heard’ information and could not be ignored. There had to be an element of truth in it. What was that?
Tomorrow’s homework
Ridli sir,
veda is knowledge
vedanta is the end of knowing process ie reaching a state of ”all knowing”
once this state is attained, one lives vedanta,
in this state , the single comprehensive folder containing all Vedas, ie all knowledge is owned by such an individual.
Such a rishi, with that ability gained, when he sees the world around, tries to understand the life, in that light and accesses that ‘’total knowledge folder’’ and opens the most relevant files suiting to his purpose, and comes out with the chunks of vedic richas, ie vedic truths, that is how Vedas are created
So Vedanta is the first step
Veda is the result
Where as Vedanta is total knowledge, veda is parts of / patial details of that total knowledge,
Since he knows total, so for him, nothing else need to be known , he finds no use for parts
so for him all vedas become superfluous.
Each expression ofscripyures like gita is a hyper link to enormous wisdom
and can be accessed individually verse wise or as a sum / essence
if one is having the connectivity to his inner self,
all the essence of scripyures / gita opens from within , without the need of reading/listening of gita
without that inner connectivity , just reading literal meaning and interpretations will be superficial and incomplete”
First and foremost , earliest in life Shankracharya realized, experienced, stabilized in the transcendental pure consciousness, became yogastha, and hence was able to proclaim—-chidanda roopah, shivoham shivoham
and could give authentic bhashya of the gita , in the light of his own inner light ,
he validated the truth of gita by the strength of his experience of the self
was able to say”bhagavathgita kinchidhadheetha ……”
if he did not have the inner connectivity, he would not have done justice to such scriptures
scriptures reveal their essence, not thru just reading , but with the help of inner connectivity
so my emphasis is on gaining the inner connectivity first and foremost
if not nahi nahi rakshathi dukrun karani, just reading no help”
“Point must be noted by all spiritual explorers. that —–only a self realized master —–can provide the effective guidance,
and enables the aspirant to successfully gain the most essential self realization , in shortest time
Merely repeating scriptures will not lead to self realization
in fact , reading of any scripture is not a prerequisite ,
nor a means for self realization even under a pure devotee
self realization is ”going beyond ” every thing, including the scriptures,
as a result of self realization, one will gain the ability to access the inner scriptures , and starts expressing the same without prior reading , but his expression will tally those with scriptures
“Just reading no help
kindly see lord’s dictum
nistrai-gunyo bhavarjuna
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[Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Bhagavad-gita As It Is 2.45]
trai-gunya-vishaya vedanistrai-gunyo bhavarjuna
nirdvandvo nitya-sattva-stho niryoga-kshema atmavan
The Vedas deal mainly with the subject of the three modes of material nature. O Arjuna, become transcendental to these three modes.
Be free from all dualities and from all anxieties for gain and safety,
and be established in the self.
All material activities involve actions and reactions in the three modes of material nature. They are meant for fruitive results, which cause bondage in the material world. The Vedas deal mostly with fruitive activities to gradually elevate the general public from the field of sense gratification to a position on the transcendental plane. Arjuna, as a student and friend of Lord Krishna, is advised to raise himself—— to the transcendental ——”’
Unquote
hence, the need of going beyond the naama, roopa, mahima, guna, leela, gaathaa, gaana, vaadya, naatya,
if not one is held up in the bhava sagar, innocently even in the name of bhakthi, devotion
once the transcendental unmanifest essence is owned, one gets the access / command / familiarity to the essence of all scriptures , vedas, gita, without reading at all ,
more over his life will be validating the scriptural truth naturally , without the imposition of rules dos donts or surrender bhakthi , pooja,
he lives ‘’yad yad karma karomi thath thath akhilam shambho thava aaraadhanam’’
the message of gita is ”go beyond ” , become muktha,
do not hang on at any level, even as bhaktha to a duality of ”me and he”
rise to ”thath thvam asi ””
Web satkam
i am not the key board, nor cpu, nor monitor,
i am not printer, nor speaker, nor music player
i am not ram, nor hard disc, nor mother board
i am not the connectors, ribbon cables,
i am not the power supply, nor the power
i am not the windows xp, nor the alphabets, nor the pictures
i am the web, unseen all pervading www,
I am not the google, nor yahoo, nor msn
i am not the email, nor the inbox, nor the sky drive,
i am not the lap top, nor the smart phone, nor i pad,
i am not the hyperlinks, nor the web sites, nor the contents therein
i am not ip, nor pass word, nor the home page, nor thefavorites
i am not the tools, nor the updates, nor the add ons
i am not the games, nor the player, nor the referee
i am the web, unseen all pervading www,
I am not the floppy nor cd nor pen-drive
i am not scanner, nor modem nor cables
i am not the program nor the programmer,
i am not the user, nor technician, nor it expert
i am the language nor the translator
i am not the letters nor the fonts nor the colors
i am not the icons, nor the images,
i am the web, unseen all pervading www
These are 3 of my 6 stanzas [satkam] on the greatness of web,www
oh yes, web remains in the state of Nirvaana = detached or remote
Shivam shantam advaitam chaturtham manyante, sa atma, sa vigyeyah,
”That reality which is Shivam, infinite silence;
which is Shantam, infinite peace;
which is Advaitam, the undivided, is said to be Chaturtham, the fourth.”
It is beyond the three states of consciousness, waking, dreaming and sleeping,’
Linga, shiv linga, shiv, are symbolic, iconic, representing the atma linga, , or atma, self
if one takes refuge in the self, ie in the atma linga, , then one becomes free , eternal, one with atma, jeevan muktha, no more to be born again, thus permanently coming out of the cycle of life and birth
Nirvana satkam is on ”na” ie ”not , no, not this,” negating, discarding the visual manifest, and moving inward, to the core of being , beyond the subtlest,
where as, as if a contrast,
chamakam is on ”cha”, ie ”and ,not only, also, all, this and that ” accepting, acknowledging, all that is existing in its varied forms and phenoina, and moving outward, to the all layers of existing , including the grossest
namo bhavāya cha rudrāya cha
namaḥ śarvāya cha paśupataye cha
namo nīlagrīvāya cha śitikaṇṭhāya cha
namaḥ kapardine cha vyuptakeshāya cha
namaḥ sahasrākṣāya cha śatadhanvane cha
namo girīśāya cha śipiviṣṭāya cha
Prostration to the one who is the most dear (pleasant), to the one who is the most dreaded terroriser (frightening).
Prostration to the one who kills living beings with arrows, to the Lord (benefactor) of all living beings.
Prostration to the blue-necked one (disfigured (discoloured) naturally), to the one with whitened throat (throat smeared with Bhasma (ash); disfigured (discoloured) artificially).
Prostration to the wearer of matted tangled locks of hair, to him of shaven beard.
Prostration to him of a thousand eyes (view from one point to everywhere), to him who has the capability of hundred bowmen (view from everywhere to one point – concentration of the view from all directions).[9][10]
Prostration to the Lord of mountains (conjoint into a mass), and to him who is all pervasive (disjoint and diffusing everywhere)