Every one prays as per his ability,
with knowledge, without knowledge,
with devotion, without devotion ,
in belief,or as a imposition, or ritual or just casual
but the majority do not get the real results, since they lack that required ability
hence suffering in the world continues
in the same world of suffering, there are a few men who can pray really ,
and are just in bliss, wealth, wisdom, godgiving the boons they ask
guidance from right master helps to know and do prayer correctly .
All prayers are done to get relief , for joy for punya for boons for redemption for grace, for pardon , again each one has his wisdom level to guide him
that wisdom is not uniform nor high , cannot be compared nor derided nor emulated,
it is a means/ vehicle , it may be by foot. by cart. by train , by plane
results will be as per the means adopted
all welcome as per -----''akaashaath pathitham thoyam .....................
Master guides saying, initially, one must persist in the practice with certain set programme at least for one mandala, ie 40 days
and gradually it becomes a part of life
i mean, there are starters, there are graduates there are post graduates, all are welcome
finally one attains mastery , in which his every brath becomes a prayer
but it is after these initial stage is crossed , he will not do it on specified day etc , no need
but starter it is required
and one should graduate, not getting stuck in the same class life long
There are levels of attainments all saints are not at the same level
depending on one's life situation and determination one may reach any level, subject to right guidance
my observation is that many lack true guidance , hence remain alpa santoshi
Personal experiences are the true signals,
why prayers are not answered may be due to several causes, all boil down to the system purity
and a stage will come, when no prayer is required, god becomes the dearest friend, no fear nor reverence,but only love prevails, he fulfills unasked, unsprayed
Bhakthi is in the initial states
but later, when in the union with god, in the state of samadhi, there is no duality of me and he, no bhakthi bhav, nor any bhav, it is a state of bhavatheeth
in this you are the all powerful god,
accessing all the wealth and happiness deep within
here belief / faith / right attitude will not be there
it is just a purely god state
All virtues blossom once union takes place, god is suguna nidhi
essential condition is that devotee must be able to go beyond the name and form
Every one 's experience is unique and precious, cannot be grasped by others
it is like some goes to college to master a subject
some one learns thru self study self efforts self experiment self exploration
there is no one method, none has patent on the paths
We can be our own masters if we first remove negatives from our system.
but we will be able to first remove negatives from our system easily surely quickly with guidance,
hence god has sent guru parampara to help the seekers
a few exceptional fortunate ones like you may reach the goal on their own without guidance
man is born with some intelligence to guide him in every moment , in life
but a superior intelligence can be advantageously gained from true masters
The single solution is to gain unbroken union with our self, the abode of god within
and god comes on line answering and helping
Experience of the state of samadhi ,
ie the state of least excitation of consciousness,
ie the state of non doing , beyond even the subtlest thinking level,
renders one to gain alignment with natural law
in this state when individual acts, things happen best as per will of supreme, individual becoming just the instrument, and no karmabinds, no remnants persist, one remains ''nonstick''
and it is a state of spontaneous actions and responses, just extempore,
without any impositions or controls, or dos and donts, virtues take over the behaviour
and all karma is accomplished best, without fail, but with no mark left on the doer
Such a man in naishkarmyam says that ''He has not done anything, it just happened''
all is happening around Him. This is Naishkarmya Siddhi, getting result without putting any effort.
You just be, be natural, and nature does everything for you.
Nature anyways is doing the things perfectly,
being natural is not interfering or objecting with it.
When there is an intention with absolute surrender, the results come easily.
and the results of such karma are always life supporting and not binding the doer in any way
this is the art of doing in the state of nondoing
''attachment or sense of doer-ship'' persists as long as one is not in the union with supreme
once a permanent stabilized union is attained, there will no more be the doer and hence no doership, nor attachment ..
in the union, it is gyan , one is gyanmurthi, , knowing the art of nondoing, hence kama is rendered into ashes
''a man cannot stay a second without doing''
hence one has to meditate and experience the state of nondoing, , it is the state beyond mind /senses, body
yes karma persists in life till the goal of evolution, mukthi is reached by jeevathma
but man it is possible to accelerate the pace of travel
words are power when backed by the feel of heart
surrender is the thing that happens in the yogastha state, nonduality, no individuality
hence no attachment no negativity, persists
''to do satkarma'' we must know what is sathkarma, and we must also have that ability to opt for sathkarma against the 6 strong tendencies ie, kaama krodha lobha moha mada mathsarya
in short we must pick shreya against the lures of preya
for this we must be experiencing the state of sath, that is the state of yogastha .as you rightly said ''If you know the TruthThen only all the karma baggage gets cancelled.That depends on the individual s effort''
here the emphasis is on the art of karma, ie doing in the state of nondoing
in this state, ''heyam dukham anaagatham'' happens
ie prevention of wrong doing is eliminated, all actions turn out to be good
and the effects of doing on the individual are nil or minimal
Selfless actions, Spirit of Service will happen as one is in alignment with the supreme , so no flaw happens
yes all actions are result of mind thinking and body acting on the thoughts
hence in this state of nondoing, negative thoughts are just not born
the idea is when one is aligned with purusha who is ruling the universe, then individual 's actions gain the dignity of supreme,
hence the emphasis on effort to get this alignment
Nondoing is a state of samadhi, no efforts , all body actions are just stand still, even breathing slows or becomes still, heart beat slows or stops for a moment
no mental actions no thoughts no feelings no sensing, it is just awareness, aware of nothingness,
but as the practice matures, experience of pure awareness persists, stabilizes even while thinking talking and action
''yogastha kuru karmani ''is that state, actions driven by supreme will prevailing individual will
i reiterate it is to be experienced directly , cannot come just by knowing about it or reading gita
When an individual in union with supreme does any karma, it is automatically becomes a doing of god , all motives are so greatly refined that they tend to become the most desired, producing all positive results
apavithra pavihthrova......
the perfect okness, when vision is pure
'Sacrifice, charity& penance these activities will happen without attachment or any expectation of result in the state stabilized nondoing , in which all happen as an act of god
we need to get over the suffering instant relief ,from bhava saagar, all the ocean of suffering
this is what happens in the state of samadhi, it is the state of ''i am ok ''
hence all is ok fo me ,
and this is what god gives to the devotee ''kshana mey doorkare''
he will not remove the suffering
he removes the ignorance that sees the suffering
hence devotee gets the instant relief
apavithra pavithrova
sarvavasthangathopiva
yasmareth pundareekaashyam
sabayabhyanthara shuchihi
the vision makes all the difference
hence
agnaana thimirandhasya
gyaanaanjana shalakaya
here is the practical hint for getting the instant moksha
Karma has levels gross, physical, less gross with skills, subtle is to get it done thru delegation , thru intellectual attainments
manager does subtle karma,
technician does gross karma
sidhi is the subtlest karma, just a wish , and things happen
there is least physical.mental intellectual effort
in the state of samadhi , one is delegating the task to god
yatheenam braha bhavathi sarathi
god becomes servant
No surprise, i encounter such situations
this is called nature cooperation, called sidhi experiences, things happen conducive to you unexpected, untrying, unknown coincidences
happen on their own what is required when
but supreme has accurate calculations to programme and deliver
and india is known for this kind of education,
but we lost track and got into problems having lost the traditions of teaching such pure knowhow, art of living the life , with divine intelligence
though you are in plain clothes, and routine mundane duties, this experience is aishwarya, not measured in rupees and gold, bungalows name fame
, nor needing danda kamandala maalaa paadukas, nor followers, nor needing to trek himalayan heights in search of kailash
god is with you all the way
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