Every message from every sage is from a level of consciousness, plus

 

Every message from every sage is from a level of consciousness,

all teachers are not from one level, so messages vary

 one has to rise to the supreme level and access to the best message from his own inside divinity and use that for his own life and be happy without getting into the wilderness of infinite variety of messages from everyone from outside, from past, present and future

once his own divinity is accessed any others'  messages from any other sources become totally superfluous

all finally will reach the ultimate source of all the laws of nature that governs the universe, if they strive properly under right guidance

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after death corpse become one with five elements, nothing remains thereafter.

 

 . Then why .is this simplest realization is not happening , they are not stopping fighting with each other, history is full of fights, wars, destruction, suffering , and it is repeating as unending episode Then to change this situation ,what further needs to be done? any ideas??"

 

How long will it take to bring in the most needed transformation, at least before the inevitable total destruction that is imminent using advanced bombs and nuclear weapons?? i am not pessimist, but trend indicates that ISIS and such terrorists, on the one hand, and civilized nations on the other hand are already trying to ''fight till finish'', and the kali will cause pralay , innocent pranees will be the most unfortunate victims abundant reading, writing ,discussion, arguments, counters ,,teaching, preaching , lecturing,, pleading, appealing, requesting, alerting , all is happening , libraries and websites are full of best wisdom and excellent advice , but what is the net result ??

 

the ground realities are horrifying and disgusting, with cheats, rapes, scams, human bomb attacks, border disputes, racial hatred, exploitation, worst is that even educated and enlightened are resorting to crime and immoral acts

 

so there must be a practical root level remedy if at all to fetch the real visible results , that too at the fastest rate

 

whether we are equipped for that??

or is it only ''ram bharose "

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"Why at all a choice exists for human being can he not be flawless by default?can he not be doing all ways good karma choicelessly why so many iterations like doing wrong and getting the punishment and improving? why not the best at the first stroke"

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"Hinduism is just a label, but the basic premises are global, in fact universal , samastha loka, from amoeba to manava to deva , can we say in short ''principles of evolution '' of consciousness from jada to brahmi chathana.when other principles of other religions evolve , finally they reach these principles , ie vedic"

 

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"I am amazed to know the existence of time, space, movement, and different velocities from the upanishath statement ''That (The Self) is unmoving, one, and is faster than the mind. .......etc''

 

 naturally , question arises , are these parameters are the same as we see perceive in the physical world as measured by physics??

 

 or are these refer to some unseen loka, not related with physics.

 

if it is related, then what are the ranges, like distances ,

 

is it a few kilometers or a few millimeters or is it millions of kilometers??

 

 brahma loka, as mentioned, how far is it, approximately?,

and how to travel to reach there?

also are there various other lokas like vishnu loka,

or gandharva loka which we hear in stories,

 

and how far are they from earth loka ?

 

if self is unmoving it must be a stable, with zero dimensions, just a point if it is infinite field, then there must be definitely movement also

 

if moving with some velocity what its range, in kilometers per hour or per second? if it is moving and becomes non moving is there a brake-system or a natural slowing down like in pendulum oscillations,

 

Probably all answers may be there in the write up, i may have to read and get to know , these are my immediate questions i may be excused if my questions are irrelevant.

 

Also, whether these movements are in straight line?,

only in one direction, or back and forth ie translatory motion,?

 

and where is the start point and the end point?

or is it circular or elliptical? , or sinusoidal?,

and at what frequency and what amplitude?

or is it a radial movement like rays from sun ,

diverging from a point or converging towards a center?"

 

 

 

 

also ancients who are high, must have answered ''which means that in three dimensional plane it is not possible to perceive. In Forth dimension,''.....but saints tried to bring the glories seen in fourth dimensions into 3 dimension plane"

 

and one must do sadhana and rise to it then it leads to a ''fallacious'' conclusion that all writings on spirituality are of no help and so are unnecessary to read or write what can be the reason that makes the great saints and scholars to do ''writing / speaking'' and seekers doing ''reading listening '' ??"

 

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sangeeth came first, or sangeeth shastra came first??

 

Om came first, or shadaj came first??

 

vishnu narayan bhathkhande, Vishnu digambar paluskar did they not sing first,??

 

and later they came out with swara lipi,

sama veda is first, no shastra

 

 nataraja must have danced without learning the dance,

without knowing what mudras were

and then came the 'natya shasthra kars and aalap,

 

folk singers did it without any knowledge

mystique saints used ''ek tara'', not sitaara, or veena

 

ravana did a performance using his intestines/ nerves as strings

and veena underwent several innovations"

 

‘’Techno -spiritual ‘’ is not ‘’Tech-no spiritual ‘’, but is a ‘’Tech-know spiritual ‘’Spirituality is all inclusive nothing is outside it .It includes-----all, everything, every bit, that is existing, that has been existing and that which is going to be ---it is a total package , with infinite scope to explore the whole universe, in every aspect, in every field, in every range, nothing is excluded from its scope. None are outside its infinite span . so it is a great subject for anyone to expand, similarly to infinite possibilities, towards infinite growth all other branches of knowing learning and mastering are the parts of this whole tree of spirituality,

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the mind does not move anywhere. It facilitates movement. Imagination moves. Thoughts move ''since mind is thought /s , if thought is moving mind is moving from minute impulse to react it becomes a thought and a ''drive'' to .cause my fingers to click what is not moving is the consciousness, brahman that is watching, silently , without interfering with mind yet causing the impulses for action to sprout at the origin"

 

"Sky / cloud is a good example , you ideas/ thoughts are like clouds, so mind is like a moving cloud on / in the empty sky , sky is not moving....this is only analogy brahman is like sky , but it is a charged sky , charged with chethana, and this is the internal sky akshara kshethra, it is experienced in meditation/samadhi when thoughts gradually subside . brahman is not moving but "movement is really happening within Brahman,.whether perceived or not perceived"it is like a non moving vessel holding water which has is movement

 

The child takes birth because it is as a system phenomena, which is universal to every jeeva, child does not get conditioned, conditioning starts happening due to experiences happening after the birth

 

 

"''The Brahman is non moving but movement is perceived to happen within Brahman.''movement is really happening within Brahman,. whether perceived or not perceived moisture [ energy ] in the soil is there just still , not flowing but at the root of each plant [ jeeva ] there is movement of moisture to keep it green and growing . but moisture as a whole knows where what is happening, , since it is interconnected fully ''The body may be still (non moving) in meditation but there is ample movement within the body.''.. except at the core, self, but within that core movement at infinite speed is happening, the core is totally interconnected with whole universe, hence one will be able to access all the infinite packets of knowledge that are lying within the core'

 

''The mind interprets the movement subject to its conditioning.

''in meditation mind becomes deconditioned, temporarily and gets at the truth , as is so one comes out as ''enlightened''

 

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there a conical spiralling movement by brahman ??

answer is yes the proof is the ''shankha,'' having a shape of conical spiral ,

which is conically spiralling , giving rise to that shape

 

another question ''is there radial motion??

 

yes, proof is that we see the existence of circular shape of ripples in a pond when a stone is dropped and so on

 ....the point is that .......thru science ......we can arrive at the ways how the brahman functions

 

the fruit orange has detailed beautiful / wise construction , indicative of the ability/ the way brahman functions"

 

there are several parallels between principles of product design

and the principles of brahma suthras

ergonomics/ human engineering is in a way is the principle of swadharma"