Name and substance      Pada and padartham 

Referring to Maharishi’s hypothesis on the possibility of curing disorders by making use of only the name of medicine, [ not the medicine, as such ], I affirm it on the basis of my experience of TM-SIDHI 

My experience

After doing tm a thought of grapes rippled in my mind, eyes remaining closed

Immediately, my whole being, my consciousness became the inside stuff of a grape, as if I am a huge  grape, I being inside it, tasting and enjoying the soft, juicy, cool, sweet grape stuff, by my ‘internal’ tongue  including even feeling the presence of grape seeds here and there, .

I know that this is not an imagination, , but it is a result of my pure consciousness undergoing a transformation.

This experience lasted for a minute or 

My understanding

1---The thought , ‘’grape’’, ‘’draksha’’---in the pure consciousness underwent  an immediate and high-speed transformation, overcoming all the laws of time-space, like sowing the seed, sprouting, plant growing, flowering, fruition, etc. as if pure consciousness has over-ruled the above laws, as if pure consciousness has a different way , a different level of functioning, to materialize the grape in subtle form 

2—I ‘’ate’’ the grape, it was a satisfying experience, real. This seems to be a subtle process of ‘’creating and eating’’ from within 

3---the name contains the substance in subtle form , when the name came into contact with pure consciousness, the subtlety of grape, ie, the anyonnathaa bhaava level at ‘’sandhi’’, gap, progressed to manifest into a ‘’visible subtlety ‘’. , at ‘’pashyanti level’’ 

4---sidha has ‘’created’’and ‘’eaten’’the grape subtly from within,

The subtle processis like –a man wanting to taste a mango orders for a canned mango fruitjuice---without going thru the usual processes of producing the fruit---all these having been taken care elsewhere.

In essence he tasted the mango in some other form 

5—I conclude that medicine can be ‘’ created ‘’ and ‘’ eaten ‘’  by using the name, and not necessarily the substance 

6---tm, tm-sidhi, will be a must to experience the sufficient / abundance of pure consciousness and to be able to handle it/ manipulate it towards the happening of transformation  from ‘’name’’ to ‘’substance’’ and to be able to ‘’eat’’ the medicine internally from within 

7—similarly, for example, amrith, or any item can be ‘’created’’ and ‘’drunk’’  from within

     Nature's Packaging

 one expert was speaking on materials, methods, preservatives, shatter proofing, labeling and a lot more details, of packaging technology, himself in well dressed, rather well packaged with suited booted coated and tied tight at the neck, ...it was a sulky and sweating day though.

Presentation was nice, he was sincerely teaching what he was told to, by his institute

ok, i was listening and learning.

just a wind blew, some noise from moving branches of trees, distracted me i looked outside thru the window of lecture hall

---now i thought that lecture halls must have windows, to allow fresh breeze and fresh view, new windows of learning.

one look at the coconut tree took me away from lecture, due apology to the faculty, and i was dwelling on the package of coconut by the tree, tender, water-filled, core, with space, may be its own preservative, a hard shell, covered with resilient fiber, with a green skin, hanging on the tree as a bunch, as if a marketing attracting the users, at the unreachable height

at appropriate time delivering to the earth, its unique and single customer, drop testing, proving that the product is safely packed, and handing over, for distributing to the customer in original sealed pack, for use at his own wish now or later after 6 months--but in impeccable purity and freshness--of course, with a limit of shelf life.

mind came back to lecture, teacher was winding up , thanking us all for a patient listening.

i felt i learnt some lessons

thoughts continued, on orange ,mosambi, anar, with mini sachets, packed in to sphere nicely divided by cells, overall with thick skin, with attractive colors.

i dwelled on rice, maize, sugarcane ...endless variety, appropriate technology, nature implementing without a lecture from a institute faculty

  na guror adhikaṃ tattvaṃ 

na guror adhikaṃ tapaḥ

tattva jñānāt paraṃ nāsti 

tasmai śrī gurave namaḥ 

There is no higher truth than the Guru,

no higher penance than (service to) the Guru, 

there is nothing higher than Realization of the Knowledge of the truth imparted by the Guru. 

My salutations to such a Gurudev, who is himself that very timeless truth (and who has taken up a form to bless his disciples like us with real knowledge).

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this sthothra, is a flow of heart ,

the shishya,  having had the glimpse of all-fulfilling absolute within , 

ie, his internal guru having been lit

----as a result of practicing the instruction taught by his guru,----

----and  having accessed the source of every thing worthwhile,within, ---

has become  immersed in the ecstasy,  is now seeing the  transcendental reality of his external guru 

as nothing but the same as the internal guru, the gyan jyothi 

and singing the glory of both together , the plane of reference becoming transparent, non existent 

Tattvam, tat tvam , that you 

ie, the essence, what that exists basically, fundamentally,and really, 

ie truth of existence of you / truth of existence of individual ,

or simply the truth 

when shishya experiences this truth, and since he could experience only with the help of guru , and comes to know that himself, and external guru are nothing but truth , he simply utters what he felt 

that is guru himself is the truth

hence there is no greater thing as guru 

so no greater thing than guru guidance 

so na guror adhikam tattvam 

applicable for external guru and internal guru both , they both merged, merged with his own self in essence, the truth 

hence 

My salutations to such a Guru, who is himself that very timeless truth (and who has taken up a form to bless his disciples like us with real knowledge. 

Devotee goes from form to formless, 

from visible to invisible, 

from relative to absolute, 

from earthly to heavenly 

from apara to para 

we see this transparent walk in the devotional songs of saints , 

and---- the reader too ----experiences such ecstasy 

in reading/ listening such expressions from great souls

  Naked?----- beings in creation

homosap dresses himself nicely, grandly, beautifully,

but necessarily, as a requirement of civil behaviour

than a requirement against nature's ravages like heat, cold, rain

 

what about other beings?

 

yes, god is kind enough to provide a natural clothing to all including homosap.

 

trees have a crust self expanding, drying, breaking, but rejuvenating

 

all beings have a over all skin,

 

additionally ,

sheep has wool, elephant a thick skin,

horse, cow, monkey have hair,

birds and fouls have feathers

tortoise, snails have hard ones

 

oh, all have underwears?

---the five sheaths

--annamaya, pranamaya ....5, pancha koshas

 

so none is naked really,

otherwise,

we might expose inside organs like lungs, heart, digestive track etc.

 

though none of us may be totally happy with our dress,

let us be thankful to nature to have provided us with necessary clothing unasked,

leaving us naked never

kaupin dharan is nearest to be one with all creatures in nature., may be most civilized?

in contrast

with a dress , tress, head wear, with elaborate shirt, pant, suit, coat, boot, tie, socks, muffler, cap, hat, rumal, pagadi, saree, choli, chunni,

as if human is a mobile shopping mall

quo vadis?

is it all required really?, what for ?

spirituality thy name is simplicity

Vidya Babla Replies to Rishi Vasanth

You are absolutely right 'spirituality thy name is simplicity', but so called modern civilization has weakened man's body and mind, so the need for extra protection and also to maintain etiquette and ethical norm in society.

Rishi Vasanth Replies to Vidya Babla

No being wears a footwear, some how they have acquired ability to walk over all thorns, stones, sharp objects , but human cannot dare, he has become weak

he lost ability to fly, swim, requires tools, tackles paraphernalia ----------and we feel we have progressed

i saw a mba graduate in bombay, in the hottest summer , sweating, yet wearing full suit, with coat tie

can we not think originally

can we not dare to be reasonable, overcoming impositions?

Vidya Babla Replies to Rishi Vasanth

Facing and enduring the elements of nature is becoming more and more difficult. so man has invented many things/means for protection and survival. Impositions have become part of human life, more so in developed countries.

rishi vasanth

Glory to simplicity!, but puzzled i am,

is simplicity an end or a means to an end.

if it is a means, then what is the end

if it is an end, then what is the means

i hope i am not complicating

if enlightened souls clarify this ,

i shall be grateful simply

Vidya Babla Replies to Rishi Vasanth

Simplicity is both, a means and the end.

Rishi Vasanth Replies to Vidya Babla

Brilliant answer and true , i am flabbergasted.

so the message is clear

ie become simple to be simple

ie 1 become simple, save time, effort, energies,resources, money, ,

avoid all possible unnecessary add-ons and attractions and distractions and create enough space in life for sadhana, with a simple plain minimum clothing, simple food, simple dwelling place, alone preferably, devoting all attention for spiritual advancement

2 consequently reach the goal of utter simplicity, being simple in every aspect , simplicity becoming a natural way of life, without an imposed code of practice, yet finding no lack of any kind, a state of perfect fulfillment, needing not to bother anything in life, as simple as shiva, though a bhiksha pathi, smashana vasi, is really he is eeshvara, , vishveshvara , the lord of the universe

happy that my enigma is now cleared, thank you

Vidya Babla Replies to Rishi Vasanth

I am pleased, you have very clearly and meaningfully expounded the topic, what you have said is the fact. But at the same time it is not easy to follow all this in one's life; to give up even a small possessions is difficult, Maya creates many obstacles

Thanks for your complimentary remarks though it is not me but through me by Him..

Rishi Vasanth

Akkamahadevi yavara pravachanagalu

People,

male and female,

blush when a cloth covering their shame

comes loose

When the lord of lives

lives drowned without a face

in the world, how can you be modest?

When all the world is the eye of the lord,

onlooking everywhere, what can you

cover and conceal?

Akkamahadevi lived this state of no body consciousness

Vidya Babla Replies to Rishi Vasanth

Thank you for telling us about Akkamadevi.

State of no body consciousness is beyond worldly persons.

Rishi Vasanth

A true ascetic, akkaMahadevi is said to have refused to wear any clothing—a common practice among male ascetics, but shocking for a woman.

Legend has it that due to her true love and devotion with God --her whole body was protected by hair.

Swamini Atmaprajnananda SaraswatiReplies to Rishi Vasanth

I went through in the net abt her. Why is she claimed by the Lingayats and not Vira Shaivas.

Rishi Vasanth Replies to Swamini Atmaprajna..

Why is she claimed by the Lingayats and not Vira Shaivas.?

---i have no specific answer

but generally, the saints speak from their level of consciousness

the followers by default will be at different levels of consciousness,

hence, there will arise different sects/cults

at other extreme, some dismiss their teachings as mad/meaningless

hence in any guru parampara. emphasis is laid on preserving the purity of teaching

Swamini Atmaprajnananda SaraswatiReplies to Rishi Vasanth

I some what see now.

Rishi Vasanth Replies to Swamini Atmaprajna..

Akkamahadevi

She is a prominent figure in the field of female emancipation and a person of mystical vision. A household name in Karnataka, she had said that she was a woman only in name and that her mind, body and soul belonged to

Lord Shiva

Her poetry exhibits her love for Chenna Mallikarjuna and harmony with nature and simple living.

She Sang:

For hunger, there is the village rice in the begging bowl,

For thirst, there are tanks and streams and wells

For sleep temple ruins do well

For the company of the soul I have you, Chenna Mallikarjuna

 names are not just words

they are keys /index/titles of the wealth ,

 rather a particular portions of that which exists within

the names are originated /designated by those who have fathomed the depths that contain infinite treasures inside

each name is a label of that particular package

this leads me properly,…..to rishi, devatha, chandas

rishis cognize these packages of wisdom they name it /label it quite appropriately as particular devathas

what is cognized is the content of that package , its rupa and gunas ,

chandas

thus each name is associated with what it is meant to convey

but any one of us to capture that content we need the purified consciousness [very important ]

and with the help of which, one is able to access to the content of the package ,

and own that in his practical life that is the intent of nama smaran and nama karan sanskar

"Nīnyāko ninna hangyāko ranganinna nāmada bala ondiddare sāko kari makarige sikki moreyiḍutiruvāgaādimūlavemba nāmavē kāytō prahlādana pitā bhādisutiruvāganarahariyemba nāmavē kāytō bāleya sabheyalli sīreya seḷevāgakriṣna kriṣnavembo nāmavē kāytō yamana dūtaru bandu ajamiḷana eḷevāganārayaṇanemba nāmave kāyto ā mara ī maravendu dhyānisutiruvāgarāma rāmavembo nāmave kāyto hasuḷe ā druvarāya aḍavige pōpāgavāsudēvānemba nāmave kāyto ninna nāmake sari kāṇeno jagadoḷughanamahima siri purandara viṭhala"

Rama naama is more powerful than rama

neenu yaako, ninna hangu yaako

ninna naama bala saako---purandara das

what for are you, what avail is all your grandiose

strength of your name is enough

‘Nama Bala’ of Sri Rama constructed bridge for ‘Vanara Sainya’ to reach Lanka

There is a great wealth in names, hence nama smaran, sumiran

"If we consider the unmanifest , pure awareness, the home of all knowlege, wisdom, virtues, wealth -------as the one single --database,--- nameless, container of all, each saint/rishi has come out with a particular package of the content , and named it as devatha , name signifying/delivering that content

i may have to explore more on parallels of dbms and unified field..

.............in due course i just see a hint that ---we can create new gods, new names of gods, --since ---it's rishis that cognized/ created particular gods--so if we evolve to rishi level , we can create new gods, demigods but these are wild guess , i need to grow much more

......... with same reverence, same state of mind '' is the key…………………………………………………………………

 

we are born from the bhoomika of anamika , from the field of nameless unmanifest

we come into manifest , as an entity , we take nama, rupa, guna,, grow and then we go beyond back to the namelessnessso names come, but have to go, sooner we grow our universal nameless spirituality, sooner we enjoy infinite freedom from name" 

  Nation is run by the government; 

the govt. is run by political parties; 
national and international issues are controlled by the system of politics; 

politics has infiltrated in every walk of life from highest to lowest cadre. 

The politics is publicized by news paper, magazines, periodicals, journals, TV channels and many other audiovisual aids including political agents, messengers and parties men. There is no dearth of forum for high lighting the politics. 

but 

unfortunately and vitally, politics is not being seen by the citizens from the spiritual perspective, 

which is vital to purify the thinking process in the political arena, this field is left uncared by the 

saints and spiritual leaders hence the need then arises as to one sacred forum of SPEAKING Tree to view the politics in the right overall perspective– talk, converse, discuss, comment, 

criticize politics and purify and raise the level of consciousness of the community and the nation 

and the world , eventually leading to the spiritual goal of sarvejana sukhino bhavanthu, in the one world family vasudhaika kutumbakam 
i wish st must play the role of wise rishi muni guiding every field including politics

Politics is a science too, as much a spiritual as any other science
nothing is excluded in the spirituality
kishan , chanakya, mahabharath, ramayan have great lessons in politics 
in every kingdom spiritual scientists, ie rishis did play a most significant role, advising the kings or even ruling the kingdom, as raja rishis 

since we have eliminated inadvertently or not understanding the connection between spirituality and political issues, present day politics has deteriorated to the level of just a cheating and looting the citizen, i wish that we must establish the much needed link and purify the politics too

 Hence , the advise for right action from st is very much required .

now politics is going as a undisciplined child lacking the care, love, attention of the mother, spirituality

i like to see the trends of the times from spiritual perspective,, and share my insights, views, on the wider implications of developments and events happening in the world sensitively responding feeling a responsibility to create a better world free of problems , all living peacefully and prospering

Scriptures laid out clear specs for  rulers

not all can occupy that great post

  Need of our times is not ''conversion '' but a ''conversion table''

Differences and similarities are due to the presence of ''uniqueness and universality'' that exists in every system, every individual, 

however, when one rises to cognizes the inherent universality existing in his own uniqueness, one will be able to harmonize all differences in his perception, no more conflicts"

"Need of our times is not ''conversion '' but a ''conversion table'' defining all the spiritual / religious terms, like we do in science, from one system to other system, without confusion or conflict 

Then only we will be able to solve the problems of life for example we have this table 1 inch =2.54 centimeters,, or 1 ounce =so many grams, and rupee to dollar etc ,"

"''Spirituality is an individual journey and therefore every journey is unique''.

..it is .like a journey..by Columbus to America.

or a journey ..even to mount Everest,

or... to mars, by curious daring pioneers and path finders into fields unknown, unexplored,

it is adventurous, uncertain, may be hazardous and arduous involving tremendous will power, commitment, indomitable spirit,

many pitfalls on the way, countless wrong tracks, innumerable wasted moves only a blessed few succeeding, enabling them to move further on and on till life long.  

but once the'' pioneers'' showed the right track, the ''common'' men made maps,

laid roads invented, vehicles,... without needing to do a ''rediscovery''....but enabled all others to trek and reach successfully and easily and quickly 

similarly, to explore more mysteries in spirituality too one need not waste one's life to learn and know afresh what is already discovered,

the help from the experts makes one to quickly master the fundamentals and graduate to the higher lessons, and prepares one to launch on ‘‘new’’,'' original'' discoveries, and thus more and more novices are enabled to progress rapidly hence the need to systematize the plethora of spiritual paths and findings, ie in short , precisely defining and standardizing, and universalizing is the need 

why not

‘’Yardstick’’ exactly is the need in spirituality, at least now in this most modern infn technology age 

before defining and standardizing fundamental units , L M T length mass time , things were arbitrary, different, some used to measure length with reference to the length of hand, or foot or finger, or guess , and weight by hand feel, or relative difference in articles, also time by just observing the shadows etc but a few men put enough trials / effort, and f p s/ c g s,was made, and then mks,, now rationalized R MKS, or SI units were evolved 

first spirituality must evolve as a science, with precise definitions, amenable to theory and tests /practical

maharishi mahesh yogi did a attempt in his '' science of creative intelligence '' he has made whole thing scientific and results measurable precisely by modern instrumentation, those who are familiar with TM ,know this,99 names of allah in quran were correlated to the attributes of the unified field ,,.....this was done by one muslim spiritual/scientist

ravishankar sri sri has done it in his book  ''hinduism and islam, the common thread''

prof hawkins too has made a good attempt in spirituality the basic yardstick is brahman, unmanifest , nirgun nirakar, pure consciousness

by using this one can differentiate who is master who is seeker and at what levels each individual is ....exactly like , in education, we know elementary, high school , inter, graduate, post graduate, doctorate levels 

in the spirituality to there are the levels jad chethan, jagrut chethan, turia, turiateeth, daivee, brahmi levels, may be corresponding to rishi maharishi. Devarishi,brahmarshi etc

none need to change their religions but they will come to know where they are and how far they have to go, 

humans are unique and different, but medical/ psychological sciences are developed applicable to all kinds of humans 

IQ levels are measurable, health /fitness is measurable

similarly this attempt for systematization & standardization of Spiritual must be done on by a committee of top saints 

they must define, and a world standard must emerge

jesus ''i am the way the life and the truth'' is identified as ''aham brahmasmi'', sarvam khalvidam brahma''

''blood of jesus cleanses every sin '' is parallel to ''gyanagni dhagdha karmani, 

''blood of jesus is the pure consciousness, not the red corpuscles

Icons, idols, allegories are obscuring 

A standard tears off the delusion and makes one know one what he is, where he stands

"''The scriptures show us the path but how many have found the truth?

At any given time there are millions on the path but how many have reached the ultimate?'

'since "The proof of the pudding is in the eating"  the very fact that not all, but a very few could reach the ultimate ....is the very reason for more scientific result oriented approach needed , though putting mental/ physical effort and strain, the goal is not reached, benefit not got since humanity is on the wrong track, guidance is faulty/ not clear/ confusing, / ineffective/ unwise 

i did a study of a few teachings and systems and find there is enough scope to make a table of all religions and teachings and show the equivalents, some sankara teachings are coinciding with marati saints like tukaram , meera etc some with milton, William blake, emerson "

more can be thus harmonized, and assimilated to one’s benefit 

………………………………..

one of agenda should be to standardize terminology

 and provide precise definitions for several of the vocabulary that all religions use

 

also, evolve standards like ISI / ISO and a gradation and eligibility criteria to give a open certification to the spiritual leaders/ gurus

also evolve an conversion table like british system to metric system, like 1 inch =2..54 centimeters, or 1 kilogram =so many pounds .so that all teachings from all the saints and babas are understood by properly ''syncing'' them

 

and there should be a table like periodic table putting all elements metals, gases, etc in their proper place using certain criteria, so that one is able to understand and know relative worth of each saint/ teachings compared to others' 

 

and all conflicts must be resolved in an open forum freely fearlessly without inhibitions are secretes 

this is required for new gen not to waste their time and life by groping into the jungle of scriptures and gurus, but to arrive at the proper grip on ''what is all ''

this will be resisted since it dilutes the hold of spiritual leaders on their followers and exposes them naked on their hard earned false position and respect