Saturday, March 2, 2013

surrender



Feb 23, 2013 at 09:25 am
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Thank you omji , nice thoughts in the morning, in his athmastakam adishankara is more clear on the aspect of surrender in his assertion of ''shivoham shivoham'' .all individual wills being the manifestations of the same one supreme divine will ,they are its own mediums, a result of supreme manifesting as infinite individual wills. hence are not separate from supreme divinity, so all individuals must allow their individual wills to prevail and function free, without any of the bondages and bindings, inhibitions and suppressions, hesitations and questions, in the name of surrender to supreme. as there is none other than oneself to whom one can surrender . so there is no surrender, what ever one does is all supreme's doing himself none other , shivakevaloham, shivo jeevo, jeevo shivo , the non dual, one unity , the supreme divinity
thanks madam for a very good explanation
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Meena Om
Meena Om Replies to Ananth Anand
Feb 27, 2013 at 04:29 pm
Gratitude. ....for appreciating n kind words....:-) ....SAB DHARM CHHORH MERI SHARAN AAJAA. ....JAI SHRI KRISHN. ... PRANAV KO PRANAM OM OM OM
Ananth Anand
Ananth Anand Replies to Meena Om
Feb 28, 2013 at 04:16 am
Bronze: 189
Sri, you probably did not catch my point

i am re-emphasizing, ---there is no need of any sharan or surrender to any one else

since there is only one , no one else

when no one else is there how can one surrender at all
or to whom one can surrender,
is it possible?
is it necessary?

a leaf cannot surrender to tree, there is no need . it cannot .
since leaf is part of , and integral with tree,
there is no separation with tree, it is tree itself
since tree is all leafs, tree exists as leaf
if you remove leaf, cut it off , again leaf comes ,
since tree itself is leaf, tree is manifesting as leaf again and again
question of surrender does not arise

so this concept of surrender is absurdity, am i clear madam ?
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Meena Om
Meena Om Replies to Ananth Anand
9 hrs ago
Ok. ..love n light. ....PRANAM OM OM OM
Ananth Anand
Ananth Anand Replies to Meena Om
A min ago
All individual wills being the manifestations of the same one supreme divine will

,they are its own mediums,

a result of supreme manifesting as infinite individual wills.


hence are not separate from supreme divinity,

---------------kindly note this point , very important for personality growth of followers , not to become weak, in the name of surrender, nor to pass the buck to god----------------


so all individuals must allow their individual wills to prevail and function free,

without any of the bondages and bindings,

inhibitions and suppressions,

hesitations and questions,

in the name of surrender to supreme.

as there is none other than oneself

to whom one can surrender .

so there is no surrender,

one is responsible for his actions, no escape routes nor excuses, and he must continue to grow with healthy values to supreme level, to the level of master of universe,
but
not remain as ''yours humble obedient servant '', demeaning, denigrating, belittling oneself on his own self

surrender makes the man a timid, weak, useless , irresponsible, escapist in the name of god

this is a great caution 

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