Navaratri « YOGA
DEVI ATHARVA SHEERSHAM
The hymns of Devi from Atharva veda:
Navaratri « YOGA
DEVI ATHARVA SHEERSHAM
The hymns of Devi from Atharva veda:
transformational
Unity to diversity diversity to unity as was earlier yathaa poorve
the key word ''yatha poorve ....'' .has many levels of application
also mainly applicable for harmonious living of all
the following vedic vachan was an important course material for us , the executives at a course on
''transformational leadership'' arranged by our ceo, to promote good, positive, supportive behaviour, building team work
the result was , the company achieved the much needed turnaround and reached the yatha poorve-- --previous high levels of performance
i submit here, in view of utter necessity of such a transformation in the national scenario suffering with unending divisive tendencies, and conflicts every where on every issue ,
spirituality must help the humanity to exist and progress together
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''Vedas on Unity
God counsels Unity of mankind as under,
Sangachadvam Samvadadvam sam vo manaamsi janatham|
Deva bhagam yatha poorve sanjanana mupasathe|| Rigveda10.191.2
O you men! You join and live together. Talk to each other with love.
Let all your minds be common Just as the way the noble men have been doing their duties earlier
you also do your duties similarly.
Samanomantrah samithih samaanee samaanam manah saha chithameshaam|
Samanam mantramabhi mantraye vah samanena vo havisha juhomi|| Rigveda 10.191.13
Let all your thoughts and hymns be common.
Let all your assembly be common.
Let your austere vows and spiritual resolve be common.
May be your minds be alike and united.
I provide you all with common food and drink and needs of Life.
May you enter from all sides; merge entirely in the common consciousness.
Samaneeva akoothih samaana hridayani vah|
Samaana masthu vo mano yatha vah susahasathi|| Rigveda 10.191.14
Let, all your resolve be common.
Let, all your hearts be common.
Let, your minds be common.
Hence, let all your works be got done well.
How elevating the thoughts on Unity! Come and think over other Mantras.
Samprachadvamupa samprayatha|| Yajurveda 15.53
O man! You all join together and travel together. Not only this.
Sanjeevaa stha| Atharva 19.69.3
You all live together.
Then, what is the need to live together?
Pumaan pumamamsam pari pathu vishwathah|
Everyman should protect the other in all respects.
Sam jneedwam sam prichadvam| Atharva 6.64.1
Entertain common thoughts and be together.
The Vedic Ideal however is
Nakirdeva mini masi nakira yopayamasi mantrashruthyam charamasi|
Pakshehirapikshe bhi ratrabhi sam rabhamahe|| Rigveda 10.134.7
Hey Noble men!
We do not commit violence.
We do not hurt others.
We do not quarrel either.
We of course, chant Vedas and act according to its dictates.
We even join hands even with straw like men and act fast.
Vedas give us command,
Mitho vignana upayanthu mrithyam| Atharvaveda 6.32.3
People who quarrel among themselves become fodder to the death.
Hence, God’s children do not quarrel.
Then who are God’s children?
Tehi putraso aditevridu dweshamsi yothave|| Rigveda 8.18.5
Those who drive away the enemies and know how to keep them away are real children of God.
These are the noble and inspiring thoughts of Vedas on the subject like Unity. Such beautiful thoughts can not be seen in any books of so called religions.
{Source: Inspiring thoughts on Vedas by late Jagadeeshawarananda saraswathi
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Asha bhandarkar, the author of the book ' 'corporate success, transformational leadership ''
was the course director,
one of the vital, practical aspect in the course was---- individual and group meditation--and instructions of veda apart from usual management lessons
this training proved a great assets for us , bringing in a virtually blissful environ in our routine work life transactions , more as a self improvement help personally
Krsn Dutta replies
swamiji dayananda says that the characters in vedas are not history but eternal , so gita here says for those who….Bhogaishwarya prasaktaanaam 44/2 ch , Traigunyavishayaa vedaa 45/2 .
here vedaa means know and not vedah .
i can not but request swaminiji to comment pl as she doesn,t respond me
Rishi Vasanth Replies to Krsn Dutta
Thank you sir, let’s talk in full
1 veda is knowledge
vedanta is the end of knowing process ie reaching a state of ”all knowing”
once this state is attained, one lives vedanta,
in this state , the single comprehensive folder containing all Vedas, ie all knowledge is owned by such an individual.
Such a rishi, with that ability gained, when he sees the world around, tries to understand the life, in that light and accesses that ‘’total knowledge folder’’ and opens the most relevant files suiting to his purpose, and comes out with the chunks of vedic richas, ie vedic truths, that is how Vedas are created
So Vedanta is the first step
Veda is the result
Where as Vedanta is total knowledge, veda is parts of / patial details of that total knowledge,
Since he knows total, so for him, nothing else need to be known , he finds no use for parts
so for him all vedas become superfluous.
2 ”characters in vedas are not history but eternal”
i agree , they are eternal, universal, non localized, non-specific to a geo-time events, or individuals, hence it’s all not history , but the seers were human beings , they left tiny signatures in the richas they discovered in their tapasya , richas have the identity of who wrote/ who cognized , ie each richa is having that little identity ” rishi devatha, chandas”
veda is the samhita of rishi devatha chandas
ie knower, the process of knowing , and that what is known
3 swaminiji is a great treasure trove in speaking tree, it is a great opportunity to be in conversation with such a vedic pandit,
i have not read scriptures, my writings are from my inner revelations , as a natural result of meditation ..
whenever i stumbled up on a few scriptural expressions, i find that my cognitions are concurring with what other rishis have expressed , for me it’s no surprise, i need nothing more, it’s all guru krupa, it’s a great fortune that i had the opportunity of being initiated into meditation , and i sustained the practice , and i started scribbling abundant insights since decades. but
Krsn Dutta Replies to Rishi Vasanth
But you have filled my heart with pleasure and respect .
Rishi Vasanth Replies to Krsn Dutta
4 but, a student may acquire sufficient knowledge and expertise in a faculty say , engg, thru own effort, or by birth as a genius, or by extrapolations and contemplation, and reach a high level, yet a formal nod from recognized university/ professors in the form of passing an examination and getting declared as graduate in engg will help , but it may not be essential , because he can as well design manufacture like a formal graduate .
so i thought a glance and appraisal by swaminiji will be welcome to know where i stand from the point of view of a vedic pandit .
so i took the opportunity to interact with swaminiji abundantly, i was welcomed, i was appreciated, i was encouraged, but some where things went wrong, i do not know how and why , swaminiji felt some inconvenience, and advised to write independent blogs , not to participate in her blogs as it will cause ”scattering, ”vikshepa”, i have no objection , no reservations , me nothing to lose, and i requested her to come on my blogs and bless me
but, i find that i was blocked .
i am just reconciled to that one advice from elders that ”what ever happens , all happen for good only ”
so nothing to worry , i am hopeful that i and you will be unblocked soon,
since ,on global level these are days when india and pakistan , china, and all saarc are coming together, unblocking each other , and a vasudhaika kutumbakam is seen on the horizon
we must bear in mind that speaking tree is domain of ”wall-less existence, ”, rather breaking away all walls of ego
Breaking away all walls of ego
5 ಎಲ್ಲೋ ಹುಡುಕಿದೆ ಇಲ್ಲದ ದೇವರ / ello hudukide illada devara
ಎಲ್ಲೋ ಹುಡುಕಿದೆ ಇಲ್ಲದ ದೇವರ
ಕಲ್ಲ 65; ಮಣ್ಣುಗಳ ಗುಡಿಯೊಳಗ 70;
ಇಲ್ಲೇ ಇರುವ ಪ್ರೀತಿ ಸ್ನೇಹಗಳ
ಗ 65;ರುತಿಸದಾದ& #3270;ನು ನಿಮ್ಮೊಳಗ 70; ||
ಎಲ್ಲಿದೆ ನಂದನ, ಎಲ್ಲಿದೆ ಬಂಧನ
ಎಲ್ಲ 62; ಇದೆ ಈ ನಮ್ಮೊಳಗೆ
18;ಳಗಿನ ತಿಳಿಯನು ಕಲಕದೆ ಇದ್ದರೆ
ಅಮ 67;ತದ ಸವಿಯಿದೆ ನಾಲಿಗೆಗೆ ||
ಹತ್ತಿರವ 263;ದ್ದೂ ದೂರ ನಿಲ್ಲುವೆ 53;ು
ನಮ್ಮ ಅಹಮ್ಮಿನ ಕೋಟೆಯಲಿ
ಎ 55;್ಟು ಕಷ್ಟವೋ ಹೊಂದಿಕೆಯ 70;ಂಬುದು
ನಾಲ& #3277;ಕುದಿನದ ಈ ಬದುಕಿನಲಿ ||
– ಜಿ. ಎಸ್. ಶಿವರುದ್ರ 42;್ಪ
I must pause here to make a few important comments. The first is that the Vedasexist in the form of chants, and the sound aspect is therefore very important. The Vedic hymns must be chanted properly and there is a spiritual significance to the chant, which the late Paramacharya of Kanchi explains as follows:
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Let me now go back for a minute to the Divine revelation aspect. Such revelations are not as rare as people might imagine, and have occurred to people in various places at various times in history. Indeed, even in science, such revelations have occurred. Of course, historians of science would not record it that way. They would instead say that Archimedes had a flash of discovery, Einstein had a flash of intuition, and so on. However, these flashes are nothing but the revelation of the Divine, maybe in relation to the material world, but revelations nonetheless. Back to Sathya Sai and let us find out what more He has to say about the Vedas. Here is a quote:
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The Brahmanas constitute an important part of the Vedas, and deal with the correct procedures for performing rituals like the Yajnas and Yagas. Being ceremonial rites for acquiring mundane pleasures, such ceremonies, however, cannot offer Atmananda or the Pure Bliss of the Atma. They can only enhance sensory enjoyment and provide epicurean pleasures, which are intrinsically transient. The search for pure abiding Bliss of the Atma led the ancient Rishis to the solitude of the forests.
To repeat, the Vedas focus on a MYSTICAL ETERNAL SOMETHING that is beyond this world, beyond this Universe, beyond Space and Time itself, and is changeless. It is that Something beyond words and even the Mind that the Vedic seers were in quest of, and with good reason too. Indeed, across the ages, seekers elsewhere too have been engaged in this very quest, though by different means. Einstein was one of them, and he gives expression to this beautifully. Explaining why he pursued Science, Einstein once said:
Einstein tried to catch a glimpse of Cosmic Infinity through Science while the seekers of the Vedic age sought that very same ETERNITY via the path of devotion and Spiritual inquiry. |
The word Anga means a limb; thus the Vedaangas represent, so to speak, limbs of the Vedas while the Upaangas represent subsidiary limbs. I shall not go into details concerning these but I must mention one important Upaanga, and that is the Puraanas. The Puraanas are important because they cater to the masses. The late Paramacharya of Kanchi has this to say about the Puraanas:
This is an important point. Take Sathya or Truth, for example. The importance of adhering to Sathya come what may is wonderfully exemplified by the story of King Harishchandra, which, until recently, used to be regularly performed as a drama in villages all over India. That is how ordinary folk learnt the importance of abiding by Truth. I have myself seen unlettered villagers say, “I am bound by Truth.” We should also not forget that it was one such village drama depicting the story of Harishchandra that made a profound impact on Gandhi when he was a young boy, making a difference not only to his own life but, in some measure, to humanity as well. |
I think it is best for me to bring this talk to a close with a quote from Baba:
I guess that places the Vedas and all the supplementary compositions in their proper perspective. Next time, I shall give you a glimpse of one of the interesting Upanishads. |