Here comes the great help from st and participants irrespective of any grade or label or id.

'find your way and show others theirs'

here the particiants are sharing their experiences of encounters with god 
and tell who the guides 
what the methods 
which the easiest 
what to do next 
when the results can be expected. 
and inspire one to take the practical step to tread oeself and reach the goal
and get the result visibly really .

they will not stop with only telling some titbits, some dos donts, 
they also aim to give those subtle techniques , 
and detailed processes to enable practically carry out by individual, 
 

and derive the required mastery over himelf and the universe,

so that his aspirations will not remain only as hopes and expectations 
but turn out into reality in shortest time.

and now the help one received by such guide

is the real help

and help one renders to the needy will be real and abundant,

here no calculations since abundance is there to share ,

infinite inexhuatible,

all that of god and that of universe.

   we do not have the power authority police all elaborate set up to define and make compliance on what to do and not to do 

hence the govt with all its powers and responsibility with all paraphernalia

if not we tend to take law into hand , na?

 you are truthfully enjoying my points of views presented to you, 
which are radically different from your grasp, 
then you would not have called it ''the leg pulling'' at all

there by making me regrettably reduce my visits to your blogs 
for six months till april, sreeram novami 

my purpose has been not to just compliment you 
or any blogger ,or seeker or master 
on the limited stuff given, just for the sake of a formality, 
but to see it critically, evaluate it, rate it, 
and complement it 
to make it , fuller, richer , more comprehensive
thus really sincerely to help the writer to take home in return 
a better grasp of the topic,

i do this function as a connoisseur , not as a commoner 
[ see the meaning of connoisseur ] 
by giving the other side of the story 

but you ignored my posts or just said thanks and put me off 

your visits to other blogs also i find them as a formality , just courtesy visits , with two liners, but not to really read and add value to the stories by really grasping the value given nor to help the writer 

do not see any motives in me, i am unique. i will not praise all routine stuff 
emty praise is dishonesty 
honest criticism, appraisal , though may appear as bitter, 

like this post just here

but it is the feed back for improvement 
i could as well might have showered praise
but it will never help you 
so beig your well wisher, i give just frank , true opinion 
i donot mind others dislikes on my approach 
but in st we must be truthful to ourself, 
and there by seek the praise from god , not necessarily from readers 
by attempting pleasing god , one will please others as a consequence, but not vice versa 
let me watch your growth and see the earliest opportunity to visit your bogs , of course if you are in readiness to receive a contra opinion

 

learning and teaching in speaking tree

From birth to death we are guided by the human guru in many forms

 
mother is the first guru, even cats teach the baby cats

there are several gurus , father, teachers, friends, relatives, but all have some attributes , some class, some level, .

guru is one who guides .

all knowledge and guidance is received from a number of knowledgeable humans ,

every one may not be the ideal or perfect teacher,

but has his place .
 

one moves forward graduating from one level of learning to higher level,

but all with the help of various gurus,

though they may be experts in one branch and do not know other branches so well .

we must take all available help from one and all, and help all others , though we may not be the perfect gurus ,

so i like forums ,venture to bring together all teachers and learners .

here simultaneously all are learning and all are teaching, appropriate to their levels and needs .

we are not waiting for one perfect teacher , from external or internal . we are proceeding to learn and teach in our respective abilities and knowledge 

In forums i find great teachings from the participants actively involved in showing many points of views on a single matter projected by one individual ,

thus the matter is enriched and becomes more useful and full, and broadening the vision of all readers,and particularly the vision of the writer , ,

he gaining enormous depth not himself has probed while he is writing the article.

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and if we ignore the label and badge aspects, we will be able to see the true worth of the content and will be able to supplement and complement it from our own perspective , this results in higher comprehension , and better utility

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after seeing a few samples of writings i find that , sharing of views is helping a lot , and thus in a way ,we can see the guru coming live in the teachings and learnings by one and all . confirming the fact that guru is always in some form , in some place, and comes here in online ,so to say, in the form of writers and readers in their conversations,

and thus helps to arrive at higher level of knowledge ,

all not one man effort but the enthusiasm of all the participants irrespective of their merits or attainments .

and i like this great opportunity

Not all are experts in expressing plainly, there are novices there are great learned professors, 

but eventually all learn and grow , even thru committing mistakes initially, so undercurrents are bound to occur by default .

however,

at the other end, how one receives is one's concern and merit,. as can be seen in the variety of responses / replies in the debate

mainly because of extensive participation , every one has a chance here to speak ,what ever may be his ability /level/capacity , with richest variety of views ,with all birds tweeting , in their own way, 

relevant or not, intelligible or not, synchronous or not, palatable or not

incidentally,
all beings , including trees , are born with an ability, an urge, a necessity to ''speak up'',
even as child, even as baby creatures , even as tender plants, creepers,
responding and reacting to every encounter, the mode of ''speaking'' need not be only thru speech / thru mouth/ tongue / or thru audible sound , their body language ''speaks'' a lot, their looks, gestures, signs, frowns, smiles, sobs , contractions, convulsions, all ''speak'' volumes, irrespective of being heard or not , irrespective of being responded or not ,

but ,Yes....and speak we do!

 i skip many topics just to keep my mind on higher plane, 

there is infinitely lot more to explore in this limited life of 100y minus 

than on ways of how flesh, blood, bones, hair, --tho all gods manifestation.

i keep looking for elevating thoughts in st, especially from great masters 

. unfortunately i find all well meaning bloggers some times have a tendency to focus on trivialities .

i am not waiting for world to change as per my wishes, nor i can change any one by my efforts .

i am just selfish self centered, self interested, self devoted, self deluded you may like to call , 

best thing i can do it is to close my eyes, my ears, hold my tongue at the inevitable wrong things that are happenning, just taking care that, i , for one, will not fall in to ditch, tho all humanity is rushing towards it

 I like st dialogs,

direct , indirect
twisting, stretching, bending
alluding, elluding,
digressing, diverting,
evading avoiding,

yet one wanting to give what one wants to give
yet one wanting to receive what one wants to receive

none matching up,
all patching up

do what you like to do
let others do what they like to do

i take all as they come
i know i am not yet a boss of the universe
so if universe does not obey my commands
if universe does not want to behave as per my expectations
i simply feel that i must grow a little more ,

so i put in that needed improvement on to myself
while i wish all must also grow , my eye is on self growth ,
despite or inspite of environ
st or any entity

At least 1 master who left ST as he could not handle the heat generated by brain storming.''

---he alone knows the reason,

every act or participation as this is not a permanent to stop .

it is a stage in the march, nonstop.

man looks for something better, worthwhile, new, elevating, ennobling,

not binding ,not dragging, not helping ,

and moves forward and finds the place

of his like, his match, his ideal

if he cannot ,

he creates one on his own , as per his ability

and creativity.

one graduates at every stage and goes up,

goes forward

will not wait ,will not waste

till he gets the best

which truly satisfies his taste

this is a positive phenomena

that means he is alert on his goal .

his wisdom ultimately is final

happy that such a movement takes place,

keeping the stream flowing with fresh water

and not to get bogging down or blogging up ever.

 i found god in the speaking tree

 i found god in the speaking tree,

in the posts and responses. as if directly from him, free

his color is green,
he is only behind the scene

his voice is melodious,
more love than words

makes me sing dance
revel in trance,

in great reverence
with folded hands.

For diamonds in st

My admiration heightens , not in surprise ,
but in ample praise.

diamond shines wherever it prevails
adds value to who ever avails

country needs perhaps a Kohinoor
to render it self saare jahan ki noor

not alone to display in museum
also for fair play in political Colosseum

 

A teacher teaches a subject ,

he is an expert and professional in his subject

he follows the professional ethics

a master, a guru teaches gyan ,

here our context is gyan

and concern is on the precision accuracy of the stuff delivered

any personal imaginations surmises cannot be gyan and master must necessarily possess the authenticity of direct experience of absolute to be able to, to be eligible , to teach gyan if not followers will be grossly mislead

our modern spiritual masters need

 our modern spiritual masters need to update their learning on ancient knowledge with the latest modern sciences…

and develop a true scientific result oriented methods of spiritual sadhana.without ambiguity or confusion with crystal clear language and authenticity in grasp…
and communicate without the bindings of belonging to x y z organizations

Green is his colour | SpeakingTree

 

green is his colour

By : Kamal Naabh on Jun 13, 2011 | Views (10) | Responses (2)

i found god in the speaking tree,
in the posts and responses. as if directly from him,,free
his color is green,
he is only behind the scene
his voice is melodious,
more love than words
makes me sing dance
revel in trance,
in great reverence
with folded hands
.
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Green is his colour | SpeakingTree