if i am the writer,

i do the best of home work ,
take all the pains necessary to create a master piece, in the spirit that god is the reader and responder , not any human , without any mercy to accept a third rate quality, with ignorance, innocence, negligence, laziness, utter carelessness , or any kind of considerations to pass a failed piece

 

And with such intense involvement with my creation,
with undivided attention , not seeking for cheap popularity or head counts, when i start writing the blog, god himself is there to guide me to write every thought every word every letter every pause .
the end result is 
god is pleased, 
i am blessed.
the story ends here that's it 

automatically such a masterpiece gets a spontaneous approval from the best of connoisseurs , without my driving/dragging/leading/requesting/ marketting/ selling/advertising/ persuading .

and when the proof of pudding is tasted and eaten, the readers shower silent compliments more than the formal words of praise or flattery .

so my target in reading a blog or writing a blog is to reach my inner self my god within, and establish a working union , a active participation , an inspiring support from god directly , not a lesser , however great and learned is my reader or the author .

when god is my customer, i cannot hide, i cannot compromise, i cannot escape, i cannot push substandard , i can not give excuses , i cannot be lazy indolent, insensitive, inactive.

the result is a supreme product , as if it's a creation of god, flawless perfect, decorated with the beauty of truth, and hence generates the ultimate effect the bliss

  perfection

What did anna hazare see in corrupt political leaders ? he saw perfection or imperfection ?if he saw imperfection, then is it due to his imperfectness? or due to his perfection ?if anna was corrupt, then he would have seen corruption as bad ?in the class room , the teacher sees the mistakes of students and corrects their mistakes is it because teacher is imperfect if teacher is perfect, then will he ignore the imperfection of students, so this statement '' Imperfection sees imperfection only!'' is it perfect or imperfect if i say it is imperfect, can you conclude i that am imperfect,,,,,,,,,,,,, perfection sees the imperfection , and triggers action to reach perfection

"But imperfection saw ok , perfection, in the imperfection in the building that collapsed so imperfection cannot see imperfection, since it cannot see perfectly it is perfection that sees perfectly and finds out defects , imperfections so perfection sees imperfection

"So blinded perfection ie imperfection saw the building as perfection"

"Meaning: God is perfect (infinite). This Universe is also perfect (infinite). If perfection (infinity) is taken from anything perfect (infinite) what remains is still perfect (infinite). Let there be peace, peace, peace."

 

"Unmanfest spirit is the system , the ocean, the reservoir of water----adorable-----but beyond the reach to do worship, enlightened alone can grasp

 manifest entities are the visible components of system------parts of the system----adorable too------within the reach hence unenlightened worship these, in the process a day will come in the life of unenlightened to find the meaning of the meaningless and propel him to find the truth finally

"The wholeness is =system +components of system =unmanifest+manifest" Unmanifest infinite wholeness collapses into itself-------the huge whole tree hiding itself in the tiny seed back again the manifest finite , a part of wholeness, the limited individuality takes birth------the tiny limited seed sprouts to reach its original fully blossomed wholeness , --yathaa poorve------as was the original

cycle repeats the processes of contraction, expansion and contraction and then expansion ----this goes on no end of story but every episode is its own glory"

"The parambhramma has one match, guru ----------guru sakshaath parabrahma [ i wonder, how did i give a matching reply !!!, i must say, jai gurudev, guru has come to my help ]"

"Infinite wholeness collapses to become the finite, manifest entities"

"I see truth=wholeness=perfection=poornam =ultimate level of evolution, = pinnacle of existence, = pure existence=paraapara=is though came from para, is of retail of wholeness, partial fullness , evolving to rise back to its original fullness, yathaa poorve as was earlier"

"Just find out what is the meaning of poornamadah poornamidam poornaathpoornamudachyathepoornasya poornamaadaayaa poornamevaavashishyathe"

a unmanifest absolute pure awareness is perfect, it is perfection , it is full, nothing is wanting in it , it's the wholeness

b the manifest visible universe with all its forms and phenomenoa. is also perfection, nothing is wanting in it , it's the wholeness

c the visible manifest perfection is born out of that invisible unmanifest absolute perfection perfection is born out of perfection

d when perfection is taken out of perfection , what remains is perfection why i referred this is , it defines the origin of perfection, , and its equations it helps in grasping the abstract value of perfection but this can be only experienced and known, and not possible to get at its full import only by reading and debate once this unmanifest perfection is experienced, the individual sees all creation and the infinite degrees of perfection present in everything the point is he sees each thing in the light of perfection and sees different things having imperfections of different degrees, and sees that everything is evolving to the ultimate level of perfection he will not accept the substandard, he wll not ignore defects, but he sees that system evolves tto meet the standards of perfection"

"Can we define what is perfection what its parameters how to measure how to quantify what is the standard think and give a considered reply"

"What is the standard?

isi or bsi specifies the standards, and awards the hallmark of perfection of the product iso certifies the perfection of quality system of the unit"

"How to quantify? percentage of passed quantity indicates the level of perfection with which the system of the unit is working"

"How to measure?

inspection, quality control, reliability testing system measures , grades, and certifies acceptability . rejects the imperfect/defective products

the alert inspectors here, the perfection , with open eyes sees the imperfection and segregates

perfection is not seeing the perfection"

"What i's parameters

parameters vary depending on product

the building that collapsed in Bombay is not a perfect product , since failing in quality / safety/statutory standards on design materials, construction processes

here those who are supposed to see imperfections, chose to see perfection the imperfect team of officials saw perfection and okayed so imperfect failed to see imperfection"

"B perfection cannot be seen in a vacuum, emptiness, it can be visible/ feelable on a thing or a beng or a process ----which are necessary basis / means to get at the perfection

 c perfection is with reference to certain specifications , within the limits and boundary of those parameters, but not a unending exercise , not aimless , not unclear mirage"

let's get at much nearer , much clearer, more real

i can easily give vague , philosophical, mysterious, enigmatic answers, rather worn out clichés and get away, rather escape from this challenge---saying, perfection is divine etc but let me be bold and down to earth, precise, and practical on this issue

Can we define what is perfection ?

yes, perfection is the ultimate degree of improvement that is possible in the design / and creation of a product to meet a set of specifications

the product can be a car, a fan, a toy, a painting, a sculpture, a song, a dance , a drama, an essay, a poem anything

a perfection is not hypothetical, not above earthly, a real possibility if it is within the permissible limits of / within specified tolerance, and is meeting all the specs and passes all the specified tests , it's a perfect product, perfection is visible by tested and proven parameters and its acceptable performance within specification"

i am answering on both levels, physical/material level and abstract /spiritual level kindly

"Perfection is the beginning, born in perfection evolves to perfection poornath poornamudachyathe"

"Perfection is something definitely attainable, instantly since you are the perfection you unveil, there you stand perfect"

"Every moment perfection updates navo navo bhavathi

rose is perfect as a bud, as a flower, as rose tree becoming better roses and better and better rose tree , tree to seed to tree iterative improvements wholeness collapsing and regaining the wholeness"

err happens out of ignorance maharishi says----man is born not to err , he is born to be perfect , evolve to ultimate perfect being , the god"

"Not all humans are ignorant, all the time, to err is not a human nature always

every moment all beings are evolving , though marginally, so the right statement is '' not to err is human''"

"Nature provides appropriate wisdom , no less no more perfectly suiting each individual but individual also has been enabled to raise his iq to genius level , pragnavaan"

"Nature also creates through trials, but no errors. nature is infallible flawless, laws are perfectly working never it errs" It  is perfect without any attributes"

"Perfection is totality of all views"

"Perfection is truth, truth is perfection since truth has infinite dimensions, perfection is Sum total of all views"

 

  Experience of transcendence instantly makes one to really feel pure love, unsullied by lust and other attraction in a state of total myness for the whole universe.---need not wait for any conditions / situations. god is love is experienced truly, beyond the meaning of the phrase

  

Ever since my graduation in engineering,

i am a full-time professional

ever since my graduation in spirituality,

thru initiation in transcendental meditation 

i am a full-time poet-philosopher

both going concurrently,

complementing each other

me seeing my boss as bhagavan

and seeing bhagavan as my boss

me seeing my factory as the universe

and seeing the universe as my factory

me seeing work as worship

and seeing worship as work

 Art and science are two together

Ultimate of science is to become ''all knowing '', omniscient

ultimate of art is to become '' all capable'', omnipotent

-----art n science together both for joy

Misery is due to ignorance

 gyani is always happy 

 YogaratovA bhogaratovA

 sangaratovA sanghavihiinaH|

 yadat brahmani ramate chettam

 nandati nadati nandatyeva||

Art n science together for producing maximum happiness with minimum energy , without wasting ,

for doing less accomplishing more

Science is to know 

 art is to create

Best creation happens in bliss

 anando brahma

''a science is an investigation by means of repeatable experiment to gain useful and testable knowledge'' ----maharishi 

 ''a science is a systematized body of knowledge ''-------usual definition

 knowledge has innumerable branches , each branch with gross and subtle levels

All for generating joy ultimately

Krishna is expert in 64 arts

 

 gita is a great artistic creation, as well as a great science of life 

 

 he presented a comprehensive vision of science technology and art in simplest words 

 

 science is to be ''yogastha'', ie to be come knowledgeable

 

 technology is to ''kuru karmani '' ie to device ways and means of doing the work

 

 art is to ''karma sukaushalam'' , to be performing skillfully , with total mastery on science technology and art of life

Deeper the ocean, stronger, higher and wilder is the rise of the wave

Basis for every artistic creation is the thorough understanding of laws of nature , ie science

A musical composition is created, 

 but expressed thru a musical instruments like sitar tampura tabala etc which are designed and created with best knowledge of science on relevant materials and processes of design and manufacture , finishing, tuning, upkeep, repair maintenance

Basis for every artistic creation is the thorough understanding of laws of nature , ie science

Science is a march knowing laws from gross to subtle and beyond , it is essentially inward march

 art is a march creating master pieces of art , using the basic raw material , ie laws of nature

Art of music is a technique of healing 

 ie music therapy , gandharva veda details

Gandharva veda is the scientific structure of the art of music producing the most beneficial effects on the individual and environ and the universe, , defining the time and raagas scientifically

God is a great scientist and a great artist of life , master of universe, jagannath

Science is analysis

 art is synthesis

Spirituality is both science and art

By realizing the Supreme Reality , it is possible to synthesize science, art, culture, religion and spirituality for the common goal of universal joy and well being

By knowing the ultimate science, one can create a universe of his choice 

 artists dwell in their created art universe

We must know science of being 

 then possible to cultivate art of living

Sa re ga ma is science of music

 a raaga is artistic out put

In the ultimate zoom out level , all will be superbly ok and beautiful 

 hence arjun was asked to view situation in the ultimate zoom out, ie vishva roop , total perspective..

Science is factual on the cause and effect

 superstition is assumption on the cause and effect

Connoisseur is a provocateur

 wisdom =knowledge+intelligence

 knowledge without intelligence misleads 

 intelligence is the basic quality of existence exemplified by the order and purpose of change

Naishkarmyam is the best karma

''Similarities between art and science''

 --rather complementarily, prakrithi and purusha

 art is creation prakrithi, science is knowledge, purusha

''of beauty and creativity...''

 beauty has a lot of science behind it , principles of aesthetics , saundarya shashthra 

 creativity sprouts from knowledge , inner knowledge 

 deeper the artist, more creative he is , more beautiful his creation 

 more of ''sathyam shivam sundaram''

''.even science creates some objects for the benefit or convenience of humanity.''

 --every impulse of creation, artistic/ technological is towards producing more and more joy , towards, ultimate bliss

Music is a art medium 

 but it has the detailed sangeeth shastra behind it 

 every art has a science basis

''but it is the limitless human artistic mind'' sees some insights, some inner beauty, inner chunk of knowledge , and wants to share the findings and the joy of discoveries with one and all , and so '' creates wonders using some science.'' creates/ selects a medium to express the mysteries experienced in the known /unknown language/idiom , and tries to do it with the best of his abilities yet , he may succeed in giving just a glimpse/ a lead of the vision , since the abstract experiences cannot be expressed fully /clearly by any means, these must be experienced directly

 however such leads/ suggestions may click that rare experiences in a few lucky receivers 

 and they reach the source of that mystery within , like the givers inner source

 some writings take one to their own inner depths 

 for some others it's just a casual reading

In various matters of life there remains a combination of science and art

----since, human personality is a total package 

 consisting of all the infinite components,

 each individual is a scientist, an artist, a seer, a poet , a dancer, a singer, a god, a devil, a dr jekil, a mr hide ---all coexisting , but some get activated , some remain dormant as per occasion, context, need, cause etc

Also for the same inputs, different individuals respond in different ways

for example, if one hears a song, a recitation of a poem, audience responds differently , some become fans, some just listen and forget

 also, for the same inputs, the same individual responds differently depending on the situation/ internal or external conditions 

 for example if a movie is seen, first time it will be exciting , likable, but if seen again it may not be that appealing

And when a song is heard, an individual responds in multi-modes, 

 the scientist in him sees the sa re ga ma aspect of it and nodes at the precision displayed

 the poet in him looks at the lyric/ the bhava /meaning and says wah 

 the mystique in him enjoys the song , forgetting the earthly plane for a while 

 the critic / the intellectual in him evaluates the song / rates/ classifies/ appraises

 

 all these processes happen in a synthesized manner, some aspects dominating, some other aspects subdued

 there will not be a situation when art alone is seen or science alone is appreciated, 

 it is a contextual mixed response

The scientist in us 

 after reaching the goal truth, [vedanta ] , ie sathyam

 awakens the artist in us, 

 who starts creating sub-truths,ie ,the veda / vedic richas, 

 ie the retail packages of knowledge ,and contextual creations,

 

 ie upanishads, upakhyanas, kaavyaas , ,udanthas, puranas,

 prabandhas, epics, dramas, stories, novels, essays, literature, 

 sculpture, paintings,

 ,gods, temples, structures, customs, systems, traditions, 

 

 along with goodies, necessities, comforts luxuries

 ---all to bring heavenly existence on earth , in detail, 

 purposeful, useful, need based, result oriented, 

 creates a new civilization , obsoleting the worn out , 

 updating the times to the present moment

The scientist Einstein tearing off the veil of jagath mithya

 peeped into the field of brahma sathyam , 

 unifying the matter and energy with his equation E=m c squared 

 the artist tagore created master pieces, by stretching his existence beyond the visible, local, mundane 

 blessed are the scientists and artists, they did inherit the heavens

Science reveals truth, uncovering layer by layer progressively , it says ''pot is mud'' 

 it removes all illusions, it frees 

 

 art hides truth, art is maya ,it says ''there is no mud, it is a beautiful, colorful , round pot ,, ''

 in the charm of shape, size, color, texture, design, embellishment of the pot , the truth of mud is obscured/covered/

 

 science says what is actual truth

 art distorts , deshapes, flattens, enlarges, elongates, paints, and hides what is there actually 

 art shows some thing that is not there

 it creates a illusion

 it deludes, lures, deceives, entices, enslaves, binds, limits in time space frame

"Art is the lie that enables us to realize the truth." - Pablo Picasso said

 one of agenda should be to standardize terminology and provide precise definitions for several of the vocabulary that all religions use

also, evolve standards like ISI / ISO and a gradation and eligibility criteria to give a open certification to the spiritual leaders/ gurus

also evolve a conversion table like british system to metric system, like 1 inch =2..54 centimeters, or 1 kilogram =so many pounds .so that all teachings from all the saints and babas are understood by properly ''syncing'' them

and there should be a table like periodic table putting all elements metals, gases, etc in their proper place using certain criteria, so that one is able to understand and know relative worth of each saint/ teachings compared to others'

and all conflicts must be resolved in an open forum freely fearlessly without inhibitions are secretes

this is required for new gen not to waste their time and life by groping into the jungle of scriptures and gurus,

but to arrive at the proper grip on ''what is all ''

 this will be resisted since it dilutes the hold of spiritual leaders on their followers and exposes them naked on their hard earned false position and respect

  Art   let’s know  how music and all art forms  mediums evolved

''Geetham, Vadyam, tatha Nrithyam thrayam Sangeethamuchyathe.''

Combination of geetham (song), vadyam (instrument), nrithyam (dance) form sangeetham.

in this context, natya shahtra,and its details mudras, rasas, bhavas become significant,

basically spiritual pursuits lead us to capture the basics every aspect of life

when the basics are grasped, it is easy to comprehend the elaborations , and we get maximum joy in listening seeing the artistic expressions in the capacity of a connoisseur , a rasagna

thus i have developed interest in almost every branch of knowledge, internet sharing is a great help

as you said, there are opportunities to learn more

1 if you can deal ramayan, and mahabharath separately with 9 rasas applicability it will be good

we should not switch from one to other suddenly it causes some disturbance

2 visuals are distractions in the spiritual contemplation, blocks the mind in creating and enjoy its own created images

3 every scripture every episode has deeper meaning, what is the deeper meaning that you are getting out of this blog, and

4 what is the spiritual significance of navarasas in life in attaining mukthi, the prime goal?

5 do rasas require an external medium / stimuli for their manifestation

6 what are the fields in life which rasas have a major role

7 are rasas to be relished encouraged or to be despised and kept at a distance?

According to Bharata’s Natyashastra there are eight fundamental feelings or mental states referred to as Sthayibhavas which can be experienced by human beings. These are: Delight (Rati), Laughter (Hasya), sorrow (Soka), Anger (Krodha), Heroism (Utsaha), Fear (Bhaya), Disgust (Jugupsa), and wonder (Vismaya). Corresponding to these mental states are eight Rasas: the Erotic (srngara), the Comic (Hasya) the Pathetic (Karuna), the Furious (Raudra), the Heroic (Vira), the Terrible (Bhayanaka), the Odious (Bibhatasa), and the Marvelous (Adbhuta). A ninth Rasa, the Peaceful (Shanta) was later added.

The realisation of Rasa is said to result from the union of three interrelated elements – Vibhava, Anubhava and Vyabicaribhava and also the permanent mood called Sthayibhava.

For this question 7 are rasas to be relished encouraged or to be despised and kept at a distance?

 

in the light of your explanation, i tend to conclude,that rasas are inevitable effects and cannot be prevented from happening , so we to welcome them with the help of the permanent mood called Sthayibhava.

this is the correlation of feelings/mental states with rasas and more

“Our emotions are the gastric juices which transform this world of appearance into the more intimate world of sentiments. On the other hand, this outer world has its own juices, having their various qualities, which excite our emotional activities. This is called in our Sanskrit Rhetoric, Rasa, which signifies outer juices having their response in inner juices of our emotions. And a poem, according to it, is a sentence or sentences containing juices, which stimulate the juices of emotion. It brings to us ideas vitalized by feelings, ready to be made into the life-style of nature” Rabindranath Tagore

 

The fusion of Rasa theory and Bhakti is widely attributed to Rupa Gosvami, a disciple of Caitanya, who is credited with two key texts examining emotional devotion – the Bhaktirasamrtasindhu (“River of the Immortal Nectar of the Experience of Devotion”) and the Ujjvalanilamani (“The Effulgent Blazing Sapphire”). Emotional devotion begins with the ‘ordinary’ forms of love and desire felt by human beings, but the intention is to transform the ordinary into the sublime. Thus every devotee (regardless of background, caste etc.) is instructed to perform a set of basic practices. Whilst the Bhaktirasamrtasindhu details 64 Veidhi (“that which is based on rules”), there are five which are deemed to be ‘foundationational’:

* Recitation of the name of Krishna

* Remembering and savouring the exploits of Krishna as revealed in the Bhagavata Purana

* Serving the image of Krishna in temples

* Living in the company of holy men

* Living in the mandala of Mathura or Braj (Mathura is the reputed birthplace of Krishna)

By constantly turning one’s mind towards Krishna, the devotee begins a process which – gradually – becomes profound devotion. The basic human emotions are themselves insufficient, and must be continually refined. The devotee learns, progressively, to recognise all the various factors which either intensify or distract from this divine love. Gradually, the devotee learns how to transform the emotion (bhava) of ordinary desire (kama) into the pure and selfless love known as prema. For the advanced devotee, the 64 sadhanas are not mechanical ritual acts, but spontaneous expressions of love, the experience of which is to taste the Rasa – the pure essence of Love. Krishna is the source of Rasa, and there cannot, for devotees, be any Rasa apart from Krishna.

Any devotee whose mind is completely focused on Krishna will, it is said, involuntarily display evidence of that devotion, so that here, the Sattvikabhavas become markers of intense devotion.

 

Gosvami divides the path of the devotee into three stages. The first is that of Vaidhi-Bhakti, in which the devotee purifies his feelings using the aforementioned practices. The second stage is termed Raganuga-Bhakti – “the devotion of passion”. In this stage, the devotee is said to become a divine participant within the lila of Krishna, and does so by dwelling on the emotional feelings of love exchanged between Krishna and his parents, playmates, and the Gopis. Devotees engaged in Raganuga-Bhakti model their emotions on these divine ideal types. There are five appropriate moods: the Santa-Rasa (peaceful mood, as expressed for example, by meditating sages); the Dasya-Rasa (mood of servitude, as expressed by Krishna’s servants); the Sakhya-Rasa (mood of friendship); the Vatslya-Rasa (mood of parenthood – i.e. Krishna’s parents) and the Madhurya-Rasa (the conjugal mood expressed for example by the Gopis). Through Raganuga-Bhakti, the devotee is able to taste the Rasa (essence) of the players in Krishna’s lila. The final stage of devotion is that of Ragatmika-Bhakti – the perfected love of Krishna as experienced by the Gopis and other actors in Krishna’s Lila.

this is the great implied process of progressive transformation ,,the master key in this ''Emotional devotion begins with the ‘ordinary’ forms of love and desire felt by human beings, but the intention is to transform the ordinary into the sublime''.

Rasa is about human state of mind. Its about what the mind feels and the expression of the feeling thereafter. In the Bharata’s Natyashastra, Rasa is an emotion experienced by the audience created by the facial expression or the Bhava of the actor. In indian classical dance it is referred to as Rasa-abhinaya.

Human life is a rich fabric that is given colour and texture by the many happenings that shape it. The mundane actions that characterize every day as well as the extraordinary happenings that make and keep our lives interesting are all threads that get woven together to form this tapestry. The one thing that is common to all these threads is the fact that they evoke feelings in us, we respond to them with our emotions before they can become a part of our internal life. Indeed, life can be thought of as a continuous sequence of emotions that arise in various contexts and circumstances. These emotions, or rasas, are what give life different hues, shades and colours.

8 how the art of acting on the drama is related to nava rasas

9 is villain in real life is only actor

10 an actor acting a villain role how he feels on the rasa effect on his personality/ on personal life

11 are rasas are artificially induced, or natural responses?

9, 10 depends on how strong the personality the person carries.

 

11)Rasa can be understood as a dynamic experience between the artist, expression, and those who receive it. The artist experiences an emotion and is so overwhelmed by it that he seeks a medium with which to express those feelings. The one who views the artists’ work receives this emotion through the artists’ medium and so experiences the same emotion felt by the creator. The extent to which the viewer experiences the emotion felt by the creator depends on both the creator’s aptitude in presenting the work and the viewers’ aptitude to receive it.

''The extent to which the viewer experiences the emotion felt by the creator depends on both the creator’s aptitude in presenting the work and the viewers’ aptitude to receive it.''

leads me to say it is a factor of ''rasagnatha'' the capacity of the individuals to create , to share, to receive, it is a valuable trait of the personality, beyond the surface /superficiality

A key text which deals with the emotional theory of Rasa is the Natyashastra (the Textbook on Drama), attributed to Bharata Muni (some academics believe that it is more likely to be a compilation by several different authors). Bharata ascribed a divine origin to drama and considered it to be a fifth Veda. The Natyashastra primarily deals with theatre, dance & musical performance. According to the Natyashastra, the major purpose of dance, drama, ritual and poetry is catalytic in that aesthetic performance should provoke an emotion that is already present in members of the audience. The various elements of a performance combine to create a sympathetic response in those who experience them. Moreover, a member of the audience who has cultivated his or her own aesthetic response may experience a transformation of their own emotion into a purely aesthetic, transcendental feeling – an experience of divine bliss. This is the transformation of Bhava (“mood”) into its essence – Rasa. (NB: A scholar or connoisseur is sometimes referred to as a rasika).

---A scholar or ''connoisseur'' is sometimes referred to as a'' rasika''

yes, he discovers the value and enjoys more, in turn inspires the artist

digging deeper into the topic and making it more philosophical !

12 whether self realization , mukthi leads one to become of ''even vision, unpurturbed, unmoved, unaffected, untouched by rasas effect

13 krishna, ''the one yogastha '', excelled in which of the rasas more?

14 ,his way of '' not fighting the battle himself, but causing arjun to fight '' comes under what rasas, if at all ?

15, are rasas characteristic / specific to varnas, brahmana, kshathriya, vaisya, shoodra

16 are rasas characteristic / specific to male , female,

17 whether animals birds have rasanubhoothi or not?, they live in which rasas primarily