Name and substance      Pada and padartham 

Referring to Maharishi’s hypothesis on the possibility of curing disorders by making use of only the name of medicine, [ not the medicine, as such ], I affirm it on the basis of my experience of TM-SIDHI 

My experience

After doing tm a thought of grapes rippled in my mind, eyes remaining closed

Immediately, my whole being, my consciousness became the inside stuff of a grape, as if I am a huge  grape, I being inside it, tasting and enjoying the soft, juicy, cool, sweet grape stuff, by my ‘internal’ tongue  including even feeling the presence of grape seeds here and there, .

I know that this is not an imagination, , but it is a result of my pure consciousness undergoing a transformation.

This experience lasted for a minute or so.

 nama roopa , after tm, i was just thinking of grapes, with eyes closed.

immediately my whole being , my consciousness became as if it is grape stuff, soft, juicy, cool, sweet

I was as if I was within the grape, my mental tongue was tasting and enjoying the grape stuff, the tongue was also feeling the seeds here and there. .i knew that this is not some mental creation, or imagination, but is a result of transformation my pure consciousness has undergone. I was delighted and enjoyed this experience which lasted for a minute or so.

Referring to maharishi’s hypothesis on the possibility of curing disorders by making use of name of the medicine alone,,, not using it actually

----i relate this tm sidhi experience with it , and feel yes it is possible

My understanding

1---The thought , ‘’grape’’, ‘’draksha’’---in the pure consciousness underwent  an immediate and high-speed transformation, overcoming all the laws of time-space, like sowing the seed, sprouting, plant growing, flowering, fruition, etc. as if pure consciousness has over-ruled the above laws, as if pure consciousness has a different way , a different level of functioning, to materialize the grape in subtle form 

2—I ‘’ate’’ the grape, it was a satisfying experience, real. This seems to be a subtle process of ‘’creating and eating’’ from within 

3---the name contains the substance in subtle form , when the name came into contact with pure consciousness, the subtlety of grape, ie, the anyonnathaa bhaava level at ‘’sandhi’’, gap, progressed to manifest into a ‘’visible subtlety ‘’. , at ‘’pashyanti level’’ 

4---sidha has ‘’created’’and ‘’eaten’’the grape subtly from within,

The subtle processis like –a man wanting to taste a mango orders for a canned mango fruitjuice---without going thru the usual processes of producing the fruit---all these having been taken care elsewhere.

In essence he tasted the mango in some other form 

5—I conclude that medicine can be ‘’ created ‘’ and ‘’ eaten ‘’  by using the name, and not necessarily the substance 

6---tm, tm-sidhi, will be a must to experience the sufficient / abundance of pure consciousness and to be able to handle it/ manipulate it towards the happening of transformation  from ‘’name’’ to ‘’substance’’ and to be able to ‘’eat’’ the medicine internally from within 

7—similarly, for example, amrith, or any item can be ‘’created’’ and ‘’drunk’’  from within

    names are not just words

they are keys /index/titles of the wealth ,

 rather a particular portions of that which exists within

the names are originated /designated by those who have fathomed the depths that contain infinite treasures inside

each name is a label of that particular package

this leads me properly,…..to rishi, devatha, chandas

rishis cognize these packages of wisdom they name it /label it quite appropriately as particular devathas

what is cognized is the content of that package , its rupa and gunas ,

chandas

thus each name is associated with what it is meant to convey

but any one of us to capture that content we need the purified consciousness [very important ]

and with the help of which, one is able to access to the content of the package ,

and own that in his practical life that is the intent of nama smaran and nama karan sanskar

"Nīnyāko ninna hangyāko ranganinna nāmada bala ondiddare sāko kari makarige sikki moreyiḍutiruvāgaādimūlavemba nāmavē kāytō prahlādana pitā bhādisutiruvāganarahariyemba nāmavē kāytō bāleya sabheyalli sīreya seḷevāgakriṣna kriṣnavembo nāmavē kāytō yamana dūtaru bandu ajamiḷana eḷevāganārayaṇanemba nāmave kāyto ā mara ī maravendu dhyānisutiruvāgarāma rāmavembo nāmave kāyto hasuḷe ā druvarāya aḍavige pōpāgavāsudēvānemba nāmave kāyto ninna nāmake sari kāṇeno jagadoḷughanamahima siri purandara viṭhala"

Rama naama is more powerful than rama

neenu yaako, ninna hangu yaako

ninna naama bala saako---purandara das

what for are you, what avail is all your grandiose

strength of your name is enough

‘Nama Bala’ of Sri Rama constructed bridge for ‘Vanara Sainya’ to reach Lanka

There is a great wealth in names, hence nama smaran, sumiran

"If we consider the unmanifest , pure awareness, the home of all knowlege, wisdom, virtues, wealth -------as the one single --database,--- nameless, container of all, each saint/rishi has come out with a particular package of the content , and named it as devatha , name signifying/delivering that content

i may have to explore more on parallels of dbms and unified field..

.............in due course i just see a hint that ---we can create new gods, new names of gods, --since ---it's rishis that cognized/ created particular gods--so if we evolve to rishi level , we can create new gods, demigods but these are wild guess , i need to grow much more

......... with same reverence, same state of mind '' is the key…………………………………………………………………

 

we are born from the bhoomika of anamika , from the field of nameless unmanifest

we come into manifest , as an entity , we take nama, rupa, guna,, grow and then we go beyond back to the namelessnessso names come, but have to go, sooner we grow our universal nameless spirituality, sooner we enjoy infinite freedom from name" 

 I listen to the same raga, same song, several times, with full attachment

 ie with so much full attachment that i get new tastes in it,

new insights in it, new melodies in it, new excitements, new fantasy, new wonders, thus every listening increases my attachment to it much more, probably i may not get detached from it at all in my life time,

 

i get never bored, never tired, never disgusted, but ever wanting to listen again and again can you see why and how this is happening?

 

here lies a principle it is the ability of the subject that matters , not the quality of the object if one is in the awakened stream of consciousness,

everything, from the most grand to the routine trivial becomes charming equally ,sensing the newness of his own newness in whatever object encountered yatha pinde thatha brahmande , even in tasting a chocolate"

 

"When u keep listening to something again and again u become one with it.. u and the the thing forming a self referral pair as if a silent dialog happening with it, the thing becoming a jhoola, to sit on and swing back and forth the jhoola, it is just a routine , nothing new, just oscillating yet one sitting on it and swinging finds immense joy, excitement, fun, liking to play again and again due to one forming a self referral pair with it, when u keep listening to something again and again , that thing acquires a special hue, an aura, a ''holy'' something since u are the stream of consciousness that has wetted it, that has sanctified it, that has enriched its value in other words ,an insignificant, stray, trivial , a chocolate or a straw 

 

straw gains value by association with u, since u are the stream of consciousness here one is in deep attachment yet in a ''nonstick'' unblemished by any attachment all due to one having awakened the stream of consciousness"

 

"In the state of stabilized samadhi, the activity carried out does not bind the doer / no attachment / no residual marks , like a line drawn on water, no trace is left since he is doing in the state of nondoing, so emphasize that the level of consciousness of the doer matters, but not on what is being done or on how many times it is repeated ,"

 

"Detachment does not happen if the activity is repeated any number of times detachment happens thru meditation, which lead one to the experience of the state of samadhi, instantly for a few moments in the initial days kshanika samadhi

 

as sadhana, matures after some time, this state becomes nitya samadhi ,ie, detachment, ie nonstick prevails in activity, whatever it may be, eating, walking, seeing, listening etc , without this sadhana, detachment does not happen even if the activity is repeated any number of times For a real devotee ,the same one name, rama , gives everlasting sweetness, for him its madhurima is ever lasting, never he gets bored never get detached

 

One's creativity makes the routine work too charming , nothing never boring

 

not the task is important , but the doer's level is the significant factor

Rasikatha, is the point a rasagna enjoys anything more thoroughly than others

since his level is that of rasovaisaha for a commoner classical music is boring for a connoisseur the same classical music is charming

lokobhinna ruche

since levels of perception differ

 

''bhais ke aage been, '' --is a saying underlining this point ''pearls before the swine'' is another"

   is this a global village

here citizen's life no count?
uno where is it, has any say or only helpless?
where is the humanity of ruler to protect the people?
an army and against the unarmed, where is the match?
is this a modern age or gone reversed in history?
as indian, i feel for indians there.
as human being, i feel for the loss of life at the hands of a cruelest creature.
all due to not knowing the meaning and purpose of life,
an animal existence, lacking any consideration for others.
how long this continues
how many deaths?
human animal needs to be tamed by the best/worst means available,
to contain his vikruth nature, by whoever and urgently.

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Can we fix some criteria to find who is rishi, at what level

what is meant by rishi

What is the difference between
1 rishi, and brahma rishi
2 between brahma and brahmarishi
3 brahma and brahman
4 who is the creator brahma or brahman
5 how to know one as devarishi

How to become one without knowing at least the minimum details about devarishi

Is it possible to badge precisely on
who is what rishi
without precisely knowing
what these mean in real life

St master means what----is it rishi, devarishi, rajarishi, brahmarisishi
what is the conversion table
from one system of units to other system,to know equivalence of badges
from st's previous system to st's present system
and that proposed by sreeramji's blog here
and the seekers earlier badges of souls wandering, connected, awakened enlightened, and the master badge
also
should we be serious on badge system
equally
should we not be serious on badge system

For all the queries on rishi, are google search , Wikipedia meanings /definitions are enough?
if not what more is required?

better i end my questions

and last
so, is the conclusion that all badging is erroneous, fictitious, maya to be laughed at playfully?
if so 
all the effort put in to arrive at elaborate system and attempts to aspire for higher badge is it a waste?
or just fun?
and really what for ?